Note: This is an IRC log of the live chat with Ian Flynn for SAGE 2006, unedited except for removal of system messages.
Ian's comments and responses have been automatically highlighted in blue for your reading pleasure.

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[17:06] * SAGEVisitor548 is now known as Ian_Flynn
[17:06] <rogueyoshi> no
[17:07] <rogueyoshi> what this place needs is to be a lot less not non dead
[17:07] <rogueyoshi> lol
[17:07] <PerfectChaosZero> Har
[17:07] <Kroze> Wait... how does that work?
[17:07] <PerfectChaosZero> Hello Ian!
[17:07] <rogueyoshi> hi
[17:07] * PerfectChaosZero sets mode: +o Ian_Flynn
[17:07] <Kroze> Thats a double negative
[17:07] <SSNWadmanKiddo> This is the real Ian Flynn, I assume?
[17:07] <Smidge204> Whoa, 5PM already?
[17:07] <Ian_Flynn> Woo! I'm a mod now!
[17:07] <Smidge204> .
[17:08] <Kroze> Teh beast is here! Come to rule us!!
[17:08] <Kroze> Repent!! REPENT!
[17:08] * Kroze is killed
[17:08] <Ian_Flynn> Where is your flag now?
[17:09] <Kroze> The flag shall guide us!
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[17:09] <Kroze> Ahhh... good ol episode 38...
[17:09] <Ian_Flynn> Fantastic series overall
[17:09] * SAGEVisitor735 is now known as MissPuar
[17:10] <Kroze> Yeah, Burnie is amazing with the writing
[17:10] <Ian_Flynn> Ahhh Madam Puar. A pleasure as always
[17:10] <Smidge204> So, 'sup?
[17:10] <MissPuar> *blush* Thankies, Ian
[17:10] <Kroze> It really shows in his Out of Mind miniseries he's got going on right now
[17:10] <DimensionWarped> Ever David Bowie song ever complete!
[17:10] <Ian_Flynn> Not too much, Smidge.
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[17:11] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Hmm.
[17:11] <SSNWadmanKiddo> That's weird.
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[17:11] <SSNWadmanKiddo> I remember someone in #srb2 wanting to speak with Flynn, but he's not around now.
[17:11] <Kroze> rofl
[17:11] <PerfectChaosZero> So, does anyone have any questions they wanna ask right off the bad for Ian, or should we just try to get a topic going?
[17:11] <Ian_Flynn> He's got til 6PM, then I gotta jet
[17:11] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Flynn: WHY CAN I NOT SAGECAST NOW?
[17:11] * SSNWadmanKiddo is murdered.
[17:11] * Kroze hides the knife
[17:12] <Smidge204> Because you've pretty much been hoggin' it for the past two days, Kiddo
[17:12] <Ian_Flynn> It was Kroze in the chat window with the knife! I win clue!
[17:12] <Kroze> Heh
[17:12] <MissPuar> I thought the butler did it
[17:12] <Ian_Flynn> Kroze is a butler?
[17:12] * rogueyoshi is now known as rogueyoshi[afk]
[17:12] <Kroze> Nope
[17:13] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Smidge: But PC0 implied that it was related to Flynn's presense. :(
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[17:13] <PerfectChaosZero> So Ian, I gotta ask ya', what's your opinion on Ken Penders?
[17:13] <Smidge204> He lied to try and not hurt your feelings
[17:13] <PerfectChaosZero> Kiddo: I never implied this.
[17:13] <Ice_Dragon> What have I missed?
[17:13] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Ah, whatever.
[17:13] <Kroze> Not much Ice
[17:13] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Me whining because I can't SAGEcast right now.
[17:13] <PerfectChaosZero> We just started Ice
[17:14] <Ian_Flynn> I don't really have much of one, PC0. I don't know the man personally and we've never really worked together.
[17:14] <PerfectChaosZero> So you don't even have an opinion on him as a writer?
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[17:14] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Ian Flynn won't be able to be emotionally scarred by my singing. :(
[17:14] <Ian_Flynn> He put in an impressively long run on Sonic and set alot of the groundwork I get to work from
[17:15] <Ian_Flynn> Some of the style/direction he used in the past may not have been as I would've gone, but that's not much of a critique. Each artist is going to have a different style of presentation.
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[17:15] <Kroze> Oh, your that new writer for the Sonic comic! Now I know why everyone is coming in here!
[17:15] * PerfectChaosZero rams his head into the wall
[17:16] <SSNWadmanKiddo> HOpefully everyone will stay as well
[17:16] <SSNWadmanKiddo> So I can FORCE them out. Mwahahahhaha
[17:16] <PerfectChaosZero> ANYWAY
[17:16] <Smidge204> Kroze has a mind like a steel trap
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[17:16] <Ian_Flynn> I should think so. Isn't Ben Hurst supposed to come in after me?
[17:16] <Smidge204> ...rusty and illegal in 48 states.
[17:16] <PerfectChaosZero> Ben Hurst comes in tomorrow
[17:16] <Ian_Flynn> Ahh
[17:16] <Swriter> Or today as a test.
[17:16] <PerfectChaosZero> at about 6 PST IIRC
[17:16] <Smidge204> Hah
[17:16] <Swriter> Hi guys.
[17:16] <Smidge204> Heya
[17:16] <Kroze> Yo
[17:16] <Ian_Flynn> Excellent. I might be able to swing by then, too
[17:16] <MissPuar> Ian- how old is Elias? Knux comics' implied he was a baby when the plane crashed, but he looked about 3 years old is SS11 "Asension"
[17:16] <Ian_Flynn> Maybe.
[17:16] <PerfectChaosZero> That'd be increadible
[17:17] <Swriter> Duh.
[17:17] <MissPuar> *waves @ Swriter* Hiya!
[17:17] <PerfectChaosZero> That's a good question Puar. How old IS that guy?
[17:17] * Swriter waves back
[17:17] <Ice_Dragon> He's married and has a kid. I believe he's in his early 20's.
[17:17] <Ian_Flynn> MissPuar - part of the problem is the inconsistency of the past. I'd say he's 1-3 years older than Sally
[17:18] <Ice_Dragon> I have a few questions. The first and most pertinent is this.
[17:18] <Ice_Dragon> What are Archie's submission and hiring policies?
[17:19] <Ian_Flynn> Depends on what you're submitting. Hiring-wise, I'm pretty sure its in the hands of each book's editor
[17:19] <Ice_Dragon> I'll be completely blunt and honest.
[17:19] <Ian_Flynn> I was brought aboard through Mr. Pellerito, for example
[17:20] <Ice_Dragon> I want your job.
[17:20] <PerfectChaosZero> Hahaha
[17:20] <Ian_Flynn> You're welcome to give it a shot
[17:20] <Kroze> You know if there any possible plans for trade paperbacks for the whole series? Incuding the major kickage of the Knuckles comic run?
[17:20] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Ice Dragon has some ideas on how Archie should progress.
[17:20] <Smidge204> Careful, Ian, he'll do it.
[17:20] <Ian_Flynn> It took me four years to get in the door. Get movin' ;)
[17:20] <Ice_Dragon> I'm really not joking. I'm an english major and I need work.
[17:21] <PerfectChaosZero> So Ian, I've always found that an odd thing
[17:21] <Ian_Flynn> Kroze - I don't know if the trades will hit on the mini's/specials/Knux but if they sell well they'll keep filling in the past issues
[17:21] <PerfectChaosZero> You worked on other M, which was a fan comic wasn't it?
[17:21] <Swriter> I don't know if I could ever write for comic books. It's a definite art form because you have to condense so much into such a tiny amount of space.
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[17:22] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Not really
[17:22] <SSNWadmanKiddo> You could just be like Dragonball
[17:22] <SSNWadmanKiddo> And drag 5 minutes into 20 chapters.
[17:22] <Swriter> LOL
[17:22] <Swriter> Nah, I like it when stories whip along.
[17:23] <Kroze> Its kinda wierd though... how TV is becoming more and more serialized emulating comicbooks
[17:23] <Kroze> Well, the scripted shows that is
[17:23] <Ian_Flynn> PC0 - It was, yes, but I like to avoid it as a topic for its protection
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[17:23] <PerfectChaosZero> Well, I was just wondering actually about THAT specifically and only that really.
[17:23] <H_Hog> 'sup
[17:23] <Spazz> Oh, you found it, cool.
[17:23] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Hi H_Hog
[17:23] <Ice_Dragon> I did enjoy Other M.
[17:23] <Ian_Flynn> In that case - yup, t'was a fan-comic
[17:23] <H_Hog> Heya guys
[17:24] <PerfectChaosZero> I just wanted to know if there were any conflicts between working at Archie and having other works that were fan-made
[17:24] <H_Hog> Despite all odds, I actually managed to make it for a day or two
[17:24] <PerfectChaosZero> And what the legal junk is about that
[17:24] <Ice_Dragon> It seems like that would actually be a good selling point, wouldn't it? In the past years, Archie has done the wise thing and employed fans.
[17:24] <Ian_Flynn> Not yet, no. That's part of the reason I try to distance myself from it. I don't want it to become an issue
[17:24] <Kroze> That is a very good idea...
[17:24] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Yeah, I guess Archie doesn't even know of other M?
[17:24] <Ice_Dragon> Well then.
[17:25] <Ice_Dragon> I suppose I'll start asking the hard questions.
[17:25] <Ian_Flynn> Not to my knowledge, no
[17:25] <Ice_Dragon> What is your, and the staff's, stance on retconning?
[17:25] <PerfectChaosZero> Watch out for this Ice Dragon guy Flynn, he's a real hardass about some things.
[17:25] <Donnyku> woah
[17:25] <H_Hog> XD
[17:25] <Ice_Dragon> no.
[17:25] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Yeah, Ice Dragon's... got high standards.
[17:25] <Ice_Dragon> I'm a real hardass about most things.
[17:25] <Donnyku> this place is full of a sudden
[17:25] <Kroze> The retcon question...
[17:25] <Donnyku> aww
[17:26] <Ian_Flynn> The frosty serpent can ask what he wants and have the firmest of buttockes. I shall not flinch
[17:26] <H_Hog> Hahahaha
[17:26] <Donnyku> how much have I missed of this chat with Ian?
[17:26] <Ice_Dragon> Hear that Smidge? I've got permission.
[17:26] <SSNWadmanKiddo> But what if he has the firmest of...
[17:26] <SSNWadmanKiddo> ...
[17:26] <Ice_Dragon> It is on like kong.
[17:26] <SSNWadmanKiddo> I won't complete that statement.
[17:26] <Smidge204> Ooookay
[17:26] <PerfectChaosZero> XD
[17:26] <Donnyku> oh god
[17:26] <PorpoiseMuffins> Just a few minutes, Donny
[17:26] <PerfectChaosZero> Alright Ice, go to town
[17:26] <Donnyku> Ice, are you gonna do...
[17:26] <Donnyku> that?
[17:26] <Ian_Flynn> Personally, I'm not a huge fan of retconning stuff. I only employ it if it fixes things or paves the way for something better in the future.
[17:26] <Ice_Dragon> Right. My question hasn't been answered yet.
[17:27] <SAGEVisitor999> for a newbie... what is retconnin?
[17:27] <Ian_Flynn> Retro-active continuity
[17:27] <Donnyku> changing something already established
[17:27] <Kroze> It means to kill stuff in your previous works
[17:27] <PerfectChaosZero> Visitor 999, retconning is changing stuff that's already happened.
[17:27] <Donnyku> a retcon would be like, suddenly making Sonic Orange
[17:27] <SAGEVisitor999> gracias
[17:27] <Ice_Dragon> well
[17:27] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Yes.
[17:27] <PorpoiseMuffins> lol
[17:28] <Kroze> In other words: What Marvel does for a living
[17:28] <Kroze> <.<
[17:28] <Kroze> >.>
[17:28] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Of course, popular retcos include.... like...
[17:28] <SSNWadmanKiddo> The whole Spider-man/Ben Reily bullcrap.
[17:28] <Ice_Dragon> That isn't entirely accurate.
[17:28] <H_Hog> The problem with retconning - unless done TRULY right - is that it leaves plotholes
[17:28] <Ice_Dragon> See, with retroactive continuity, you're not changing stuff that happened, so much as you're saying that it never happened in the first place.
[17:28] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Or the Death of Jean Grey.
[17:28] <PerfectChaosZero> Well, perhaps Ian can give his own, personal definition of Ret Conning?
[17:28] <Donnyku> that would work
[17:28] <Ian_Flynn> I'll give an example
[17:29] <PerfectChaosZero> I mean he is the pro
[17:29] <Ice_Dragon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retcon
[17:29] <SSNWadmanKiddo> I'd like to be a pro sometime. I think I could write good fiction if I bothered. :D
[17:29] <PorpoiseMuffins> Well, as long as you can get someone to pay you, I guess that makes you a "pro" ;)
[17:29] <Ian_Flynn> In StH#150, it's said Tails completes his duties as the Chosen One when he defeats Mammoth Mogul. The problem: it was established long before that Tails would lead to The Gathering and the Great Harmony
[17:30] <Ice_Dragon> But is that a retcon or a continuity oversight?
[17:30] <Donnyku> I stopped reading around #50 :E
[17:30] <Ice_Dragon> Donny: Sasquatch Tails.
[17:30] <Ian_Flynn> Thus, in StH#162, it was "revealed" that Mogul's entrapment (and follies) were all thanks to the Ancient Walkers, thus allowing us to move forward
[17:31] <PerfectChaosZero> Ah, now THAT'S a retcon
[17:31] <Smidge204> Verbal duct tape
[17:31] <Ian_Flynn> Precisely
[17:31] <Ice_Dragon> Agreed.
[17:31] <Donnyku> very nice Smidge
[17:31] <Ice_Dragon> That would be an addition retcon.
[17:31] <Ice_Dragon> granted, there's really no need for retconning of any kind if you have a tight continuity.
[17:32] <Ice_Dragon> Which brings me to my next question. As someone that's followed the comic and it's writing staff for a few years, the phrase "loose continuity" has come up many a time.
[17:32] <Ice_Dragon> What exactly does this mean, and why is it considered a good thing/
[17:32] <Ian_Flynn> Loose continuity is no more.
[17:32] <Ice_Dragon> Oh really?
[17:32] <SAGEVisitor999> reality, tho, says that with changes in writers and, more importantly, editors, continuity pays a price...
[17:32] <PorpoiseMuffins> Beautiful
[17:33] <Ian_Flynn> Loose continuity was the old mind-set of the book. Tell any story, have pretty much anything happen, and there was no major concern with how it might contradict itself
[17:33] <Ice_Dragon> It clearly didn't work.
[17:33] <Ian_Flynn> I can't say when exactly it began to be phased out, but I came in firmly resolved against it
[17:34] <Kroze> Actually, I got a intresting question, how much freedom are you given when working on this by Archie and Sega since you are indeed writing using their own characters and settings somewhat? Cause when I was working on a old licence doing stories for there site, they were really loose about it....
[17:34] <SSNWadmanKiddo> I don't think Sega's nagged Archie to do any sort of changes since SA2.
[17:34] <Ian_Flynn> I'm got a lot of creative freedom, especially with the non-SegaSonic characters.
[17:34] <Ice_Dragon> What are your thoughts on the stories being targeted towards prepubescent males when the Sonic franchise also has a fanbase that includes girls and is in their mid twenties?
[17:35] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Which is why Penders can have Shadow be saved entirely differently in Archie than how he is in SegaSonic continuity.
[17:35] <Ice_Dragon> I don't think Sega's nagged in any way Kiddo. After all, how many times have we seen Sonic swimming?
[17:35] <H_Hog> Kiddo - he sid NON-Segasonic characters.
[17:35] <H_Hog> *said
[17:35] <Ian_Flynn> I don't really write for that range. I try to keep the stories clear and I try to make them entertaining.
[17:36] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Yeah, but he still implied he had more control over the characters than, like
[17:36] <Ice_Dragon> So you'd say there's no targeting?
[17:36] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Sega's old "Force Sally to live" and "Force a Sonic adventure adaption" stuff.
[17:36] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Is snake0 just here to troll?
[17:36] <H_Hog> Looks like it
[17:36] <Ian_Flynn> There is when you get into the marketting side of things, but not in my mind as I write.
[17:37] <PerfectChaosZero> Now, Ian, a lot (you'd be suprised how many)of people are very happy that Ken Penders is gone, many felt he ruined the book and a lot of fans are looking to you to fix it. I myself am interested in getting a subscription to Sonic for the first time in several years, now that you have the helm. Do you feel it's a bit of pressure to be so relied on by so many fans now?
[17:37] <H_Hog> Yawhatta?
[17:37] <Ice_Dragon> So there's no editorial pressure to pidgeonhole your writing?
[17:37] * Smidge204 sets mode: +o Ice_Dragon
[17:37] <SSNWadmanKiddo> :( Ice gets ops.
[17:37] * Smidge204 sets mode: +o SSNWadmanKiddo
[17:37] <H_Hog> Oooooo
[17:37] <Donnyku> o.o
[17:37] <Smidge204> Just keep the trolls outta here, 'k guys?
[17:37] <Ian_Flynn> If anything, I've felt very free to explore and push boundries with editorial
[17:37] <H_Hog> As does Kiddo
[17:37] <Ice_Dragon> As always.
[17:37] <Donnyku> we're doomed, kiddo's an op
[17:37] <H_Hog> ZOMFG
[17:37] * Smidge204 sets mode: +o Donnyku
[17:37] <Ian_Flynn> PC0 - Yes. x100
[17:37] <SSNWadmanKiddo> :D
[17:37] <Smidge204> Donny's job is to keep Kiddo in line
[17:38] <H_Hog> See everyone who isn't female get kicked ;P
[17:38] <PerfectChaosZero> Ouch, how do you deal with it?
[17:38] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Don't worry.
[17:38] <H_Hog> j/k man
[17:38] <Ian_Flynn> Videogames and other forms of escapism =D
[17:38] <SSNWadmanKiddo> When I'm not looking at porn, I'm a generally sane guy.
[17:38] <Ian_Flynn> ...and write the best scripts I can, too.
[17:38] <Alam_Debian> ...
[17:38] <Kroze> Heh, yeah
[17:38] <SSNWadmanKiddo> (But not when SAGEcasting. Then I'm like, Meowtwo.)
[17:38] * PerfectChaosZero sets mode: +o H_Hog
[17:38] <SSNWadmanKiddo> ... (Does that make me a shit, as well?)
[17:38] <Ice_Dragon> Were, or are, you ever issued character bibles?
[17:38] <Ice_Dragon> I personally believe they're fundamental to writing any work.
[17:38] <PerfectChaosZero> That's a good question Ice
[17:39] <Ian_Flynn> I helped write the one we're working with now
[17:39] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Woah, wait
[17:39] <H_Hog> Ooh. 'kay-o, I'll keep an eye out as well.
[17:39] <Ice_Dragon> All of my questions are good questions.
[17:40] <Ice_Dragon> Okay, great. So we're not going to see Sonic diving into the ocean or anything like that in the forseeable future, right?
[17:40] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Yeah, but they didn't show up here until Ian came along
[17:40] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Aw, well.
[17:40] <Ian_Flynn> Heh, no, we won't
[17:40] <SSNWadmanKiddo> ahhh, I remember that Sonic X preview image.
[17:40] <SSNWadmanKiddo> "Hey, Sonic's in the water? BUT HOW DOES HE SWIM?"
[17:40] <Ice_Dragon> Sonic X Issue 2 Page 1
[17:40] <Kroze> Do you take into consern fans likes and dislikes about characters and story ideas? Or do just go and write what works and throw cation to the wind?
[17:41] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Sonic X issue 1 also had a silly inconsistancy.
[17:41] <SSNWadmanKiddo> With Sonic actually -struggling- against Sam Speed.
[17:41] <Ice_Dragon> Yes,
[17:41] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Who, in the TV Series, he makes out to be a total joke.
[17:41] <Ian_Flynn> A little of both - but never is caution thrown to the wind. I try to accomodate the general concensus.
[17:41] <Ice_Dragon> Kiddo, to be fair, we don't really have to worry about those sorts of mistakes when you have fans at the helm as we do now.
[17:41] <Donnyku> I havn't had a chance to read you're other issues since 160 (that was your first one right) after seeing Bean and Bark back, will we be seeing others like Nack/Fang or Mighty and Ray?
[17:41] <Ian_Flynn> You will notice - virtually no Tommy Turtle for six months.
[17:41] <H_Hog> Why is Sonic unable to swim, by the way... is it that he's so streamlined, the water just doesn't have any resistance on him anymore?
[17:41] <Ice_Dragon> Thank you for that, by the way, Ian.
[17:41] <PerfectChaosZero> Ian: Does this mean that we'll see no more Sasquatch Tails?
[17:42] <Kroze> rofl
[17:42] <SSNWadmanKiddo> H_Hog: That's not a question for Flynn, silly.
[17:42] <Ice_Dragon> (I weep for Sasquatch Tails)
[17:42] <Ian_Flynn> NO MORE TITAN TAILS
[17:42] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Ask that when a SEGA Exec. comes in.
[17:42] <H_Hog> I wasn't really asking it to him in particular
[17:42] <PerfectChaosZero> I'd hope not XD
[17:42] <Ice_Dragon> H: Because it makes the game harder for him underwater. All heroes have a weakness.
[17:42] <SSNWadmanKiddo> On the other hand
[17:42] <Ian_Flynn> And yes - more Nack, Mighty and Ray where I can fit them
[17:42] <H_Hog> It was just a general musing
[17:42] <SSNWadmanKiddo> How about "Badass" tails?
[17:42] <SSNWadmanKiddo> From...
[17:42] <Donnyku> yay
[17:42] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Oh, wait
[17:42] <PerfectChaosZero> Any chance you can somehow retcon that out?
[17:42] <SSNWadmanKiddo> 4Kids cut that out of the English Sonic X, didn't they?
[17:42] <H_Hog> hahaha
[17:42] <Donnyku> Nack is the best, shame Sonic Team keeps forgetting his existance
[17:42] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Nevermind. Only us hardcore fans would be the joke, then.
[17:43] <Ian_Flynn> "The Darkest Storm" tied up any problems that made. And I have no plans of reviving that "form" again
[17:43] <PerfectChaosZero> I don't know what Penders was thinking, but it's actually probably the most hated single event to ever happen in the comic
[17:43] <H_Hog> "Sasquatch Tails? That uhhh... never happened. It was really Bark in a Tails outfit."
[17:43] <Donnyku> H, if it was still Ken, I could kinda see that happening
[17:43] <Ice_Dragon> Personally, I feel that the comic, it's fanbase, and you as a writer, would be best served with a complete retcon, so that you might start fresh, free of the...mistakes, that have plauged the series.
[17:43] * PerfectChaosZero sets mode: +o Tendo
[17:43] <Ice_Dragon> No, if it was Ken, it would be Anti-Tails from the Anti-Dimension.
[17:44] <Donnyku> ah yes
[17:44] <Ian_Flynn> It's crossed my mind, but I think there's far too much good stuff to work with to throw it all out now
[17:44] <Donnyku> his multi-dimentions
[17:44] <Ice_Dragon> perhaps complete may have been a hyperbole.
[17:44] <Ian_Flynn> Just wait and see what I do with alot of old elements after M25YL. You'll see what I mean.
[17:44] <PerfectChaosZero> So you're going to try and work with what you've got already rather than start fresh?
[17:44] <Ian_Flynn> Precisely.
[17:44] <Ice_Dragon> I'll admit there are concepts worth keeping, if for no other reason than they could have a lot of potential.
[17:45] <Ice_Dragon> What about Knuckles? He's pretty much become a contradiction to the sega provided canon.
[17:45] <Ice_Dragon> And is, occasionally, The Incredible Hulk.
[17:45] <Ian_Flynn> As long as they don't contradict us, I'll keep writing him as we've established
[17:46] <Ian_Flynn> No more Green Knuckles, either =P
[17:46] <Donnyku> that's good to know
[17:46] <Kroze> I haven't read anything past... well #152 but will Espio and his relative (Who was in the Kings Royal Secret Service) return to kick major ass anytime soon?
[17:46] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Yeah
[17:46] <Kroze> I <3 them
[17:46] <SSNWadmanKiddo> The Archie canon isn't the Sega canon, not by a long shot, anymore.
[17:46] <Ian_Flynn> Espio - yes. Valdez (I don't think they were related, but I'd have to check) no immediate plans
[17:46] <PerfectChaosZero> One thing that's always bugged me is the number of Chaos Emeralds found in the comic. Is it really sensible to have so many unlimited power sources?
[17:46] <Ice_Dragon> I was hoping Blaze would be here so that I could make this joke with him present
[17:46] <Ice_Dragon> but
[17:46] <Kroze> Awww...
[17:46] <Ice_Dragon> Is Drago coming back?
[17:47] <Ian_Flynn> PC0 - hold that thought. Don't ask, but hold that thought.
[17:47] <Kroze> Heh
[17:47] <PerfectChaosZero> moho
[17:47] * Donnyku lunches some CE Jammers into the earth
[17:47] <Ian_Flynn> Drago came back in StH#162-164 and will remain a member of the Destructix...until I don't want him there anymore.
[17:47] <H_Hog> Uh-oh! Could Ian be up to something? :P
[17:47] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Speaking of Blaze the Cat, I don't think any 'recently introduced" Sega characters have been placed in archie in a while.
[17:47] <Donnyku> now to wait for someone to make a CD Jammer Canceler
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[17:47] <Tendo> God, Kiddo, don't give anyone any ideas.
[17:48] <SSNWadmanKiddo> From Cream onwards, if I recall.
[17:48] <Donnyku> no
[17:48] <Tendo> There is no sonic continuity that needs MORE characters. ;_;
[17:48] <Ice_Dragon> That's true. Has Sega stopped asking for game adaptations? Because you're missing quite a few segasonic characters.
[17:48] <Donnyku> we don't need Silver :E
[17:48] <Ice_Dragon> Granted, as Neo just pointed out, you've got a full house already
[17:48] <H_Hog> Hey, if anyone, Blaze could make an interesting character. More interesting then Cream or the Babytlon Rogues, at the very least.
[17:48] <Tendo> Not to mention the trouble that may be caused by overlapping character archetypes.
[17:48] <Meowtwo> Oh, is that special guest thing tonight?
[17:48] <Ian_Flynn> Babylon Rogues were in the comic
[17:48] <H_Hog> Ah.
[17:48] <Donnyku> yes Meow
[17:48] <PerfectChaosZero> Meowtwo: It's right now XD
[17:48] <Ice_Dragon> Are there any inspirations that you draw on when writing the characters?
[17:48] <Meowtwo> When's that?
[17:48] <Ian_Flynn> Cream (and alot of char's related to her) are SX-exclusive
[17:48] <Meowtwo> OH.
[17:49] <Meowtwo> Hello.
[17:49] <H_Hog> Well, you'll have to excuse my ignorance of that - I haven't been able to obtain a comic since 128
[17:49] <Donnyku> that's good
[17:49] <Ice_Dragon> Whenever I picture the Sonic and Tails dynamic, I'm reminded of a couple of the characters from Outlaw Star.
[17:49] <Tendo> You might already have an "ANGSTY GUY FROM THE FUTURE" already, so Silver would be, for all intents and purpses, be superfluous
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[17:49] <PerfectChaosZero> You know
[17:49] <H_Hog> which is when my local comicstore vanished D:
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[17:49] <PerfectChaosZero> Silver brings up a good question though
[17:49] <Kroze> This is not really a question but more of a request.... Gimme a M25YL Knux action figure!!
[17:49] <Kroze> <.<
[17:49] <PerfectChaosZero> Ian, how do you feel about the sonic games starting their universe fresh? And how will that effect the comic?
[17:49] <Ian_Flynn> I try to bring in the best from each "version" and work it so it fits/makes sense coming from the established ArchieSonic-version
[17:49] <Kroze> >.>
[17:49] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Kroze: Ian doesn't make action figures. :P
[17:49] <Kroze> I know
[17:50] <Meowtwo> WHY NOT.
[17:50] <Ian_Flynn> ...well, actually....
[17:50] <Kroze> o.0
[17:50] <Meowtwo> :D
[17:50] <PerfectChaosZero> Unless you're not allowed to speak on such matters?
[17:50] <Ian_Flynn> There's a hobby project of mine I haven't had much time to devote to yet, BUT...
[17:50] <Ice_Dragon> Meowtwo: Do NOT turn this into /b/. We're having a constructive seminar and I have no qualms about removing you.
[17:50] <Meowtwo> Ah poo.
[17:50] <H_Hog> Personally, I don't think Sonic "starting fresh" in the games should have much of an impact on the comic. I mean - adaptations aside, it's pretty much been in its own continuity anyway.
[17:51] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Yeah.
[17:51] <Tendo> Yeah.
[17:51] <Donnyku> that is true
[17:51] <Ian_Flynn> I got the latest run of SX-figures and plan on tweaking them into char's that haven't been made into figures. That's sorta "making" figures.
[17:51] <Kroze> Nice...
[17:51] <SSNWadmanKiddo> In all honesty, I haven't seen the plot of Sonic 2k6 yet, so I'm still guess it "won't" be as fresh a start as planned.
[17:51] <Ice_Dragon> Exactly. Hence why while Sonic X and Segasonic depict Knuckles as a girl shy last of his kind loner, Archie is free to do the complete and total opposite in every conceivable way.
[17:51] <H_Hog> That, too.
[17:51] <Tendo> So.. anyway, I'll throw a kind of silly question out there, though it's one that kind of hits home with old sonic fans. I don't really keep up as much as a lot of people, but just when was the last time Knuckles got duped by Eggman into doing something stupid?
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[17:52] <Ian_Flynn> It's been awhile, Tendo
[17:52] <Tendo> That's disappointing.
[17:52] <Kroze> Thank god too
[17:52] <Tendo> What? No way.
[17:52] <Tendo> That was one of Knuckles' founding character traits.
[17:52] <Ice_Dragon> So is him being the only living echidna.
[17:52] <Kroze> Ehhh... but he has got to learn
[17:52] <Ice_Dragon> How far we've come.
[17:52] <Meowtwo> That, and Knuckle's being so gullible he'll believe anything you tell him.
[17:52] <Kroze> Its called character evolution
[17:53] <Smidge204> To quote from earlier: <Smidge204> "Sonic! Eggman said you stole my breakfast! Give me back my breakfast!"
[17:53] <Meowtwo> lol
[17:53] <Ice_Dragon> Actually that's a good question.
[17:53] <Donnyku> agreed
[17:53] <Donnyku> it's not Knuckles unless he's getting duped somehoe
[17:53] <Donnyku> *somehow
[17:53] <Ian_Flynn> KNUX: "Sonic! Leggo my Eggo!"
[17:53] <Donnyku> or an evil dictator....
[17:53] <Ice_Dragon> Where do you draw the line between developing a character and what is essentially writing a new character under the old one's name?
[17:53] <Smidge204> (tm)
[17:53] <Swriter> Was Knuckles ever in AOSTH?
[17:53] <Donnyku> no
[17:54] <Kroze> Nope
[17:54] <Tendo> No.
[17:54] <Meowtwo> No.
[17:54] <Donnyku> Knuckles was only in SoUnd
[17:54] <Smidge204> yes.
[17:54] <Meowtwo> ...
[17:54] <Smidge204> I mean no...
[17:54] <Donnyku> in a 3 part ep
[17:54] <Ice_Dragon> Because, as I've repeated in this conversation ad nauseum, Archie Knuckles is in no way the Knuckles we see everywhere else.
[17:54] <PorpoiseMuffins> I think he knows that :D
[17:54] <Tendo> Frankly, in the Segasonic universe
[17:54] <Tendo> Knuckles is widely known for two things:
[17:54] <Ian_Flynn> It's really tricky, Ice. One thing I try to do when even conceptualizing a change is to get into the char's head - think as they would - and see if the progression/change would make sense for them
[17:54] <Tendo> Being an idiot, and losing the master emerald.
[17:54] <Donnyku> I havn't read the comic, but does Knuckles still obsess over the Master Emerald?
[17:55] <PerfectChaosZero> Ian, what are your thoughts on the whole Sonic x Sally thing (as in romantically) and is it true that SEGA has been trying to put a lid on it for some time now
[17:55] <Ice_Dragon> in the same way, in recent years, many of the Archie characters gleaned from Segasonic or Satam have been changed beyond recognition in terms of writing.
[17:55] <Ice_Dragon> Romance in the book in general has been a mess.
[17:55] <SSNWadmanKiddo> "Chips? You mean Potato Chips?"
[17:55] <Ice_Dragon> It's not a love triangle anymore. It's a love hexagon.
[17:55] <SSNWadmanKiddo> How drastic Charmy is between Archie and Sega.
[17:55] <Tendo> In the Sonic fan realm, the only good advice I can give you about writing love stories is don't.
[17:55] <Ian_Flynn> PC0 - Sonic and Sally are over. They've been over for a while. Now it's a question of "will they return to each other?" or "who's next?" I've not received any word from Sega one way or another about them.
[17:55] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Yeah, Sonic the Harem Hedgehog.
[17:56] <Ice_Dragon> to be fair, Sega themselves retconned Charmy
[17:56] <Donnyku> who is it now Ice? Sonic/Sally/Amy/Mina/other odd girl I don't know the name of?
[17:56] <PerfectChaosZero> So which do you support yourself?
[17:56] <Ice_Dragon> Sonic/Sally/Amy/Mina/Fiona, last time I checked
[17:56] <Ian_Flynn> Not sayin' ;)
[17:56] <Kroze> I really like to see characters naturally evolve from what they were... Its not fun when your characters stay locked in the same ways for so long...
[17:56] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Aww
[17:56] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Flynn won't give us no spoilers? :(
[17:57] <Ian_Flynn> Nope. I'll mercilessly tease, tho'
[17:57] <PerfectChaosZero> Ian: But we have a reasonable CHANCE of seeing Sonic and Sally back together, right?
[17:57] <Donnyku> Ian, if you had the chance, would you try and bring Other M into the story?
[17:57] <Tendo> Yes, Kroze, but it's not fun when the characters you have a soft spot in your heart for are suddenly completely different from the characters you now see
[17:57] <PerfectChaosZero> There's no, "Oh my god you can't do that" anymore
[17:57] <Kroze> But Tendo, thats not natural at all...
[17:57] <PerfectChaosZero> Because PENDERS told us on his board that it was Sega that made him split up Sonic and Sally
[17:57] <Ian_Flynn> I can't rule it out, no. I can't rule out him hooking up with somebody else down the line, either
[17:57] <Tendo> Excuse me, what?
[17:57] <Ice_Dragon> I'd wager that Knuckles as a bright green married king isn't the kind of development you want, Kroze.
[17:57] <Ian_Flynn> Donnyku - Absolutely not.
[17:57] <Tendo> You're talking about natural in a story about a giant blue hedgehog that runs at the speed of sound?
[17:57] <Meowtwo> Green?
[17:57] <Ice_Dragon> Green.
[17:58] <Ice_Dragon> Lime Green, actually.
[17:58] <Meowtwo> ... Ugh.
[17:58] <Donnyku> what about as a different book? still no?
[17:58] <Kroze> No, that is not what I am talking about at all
[17:58] <Tendo> Nobody cares about 'natural'.
[17:58] <Tendo> People want Sonic.
[17:58] <Ian_Flynn> Nope. It's better off where it is, how it is.
[17:58] <Ice_Dragon> But that's what's happened Kroze. We're simply saying "Where is the line at which this doesn't become okay."
[17:58] <Ian_Flynn> 10 min. warning, y'all
[17:58] <Ice_Dragon> You have to keep in mind that we've heard moves like that defended as "character development" by the very man that penned those stories.
[17:58] <Donnyku> Neo, remember, Sonic Team themselves seem to have reconned Knux, even in the games he hasn't beed duped or even set eyes on the ME
[17:59] <Tendo> Games? More like.. game.
[17:59] <Ice_Dragon> okay. Let me pose this question.
[17:59] <Tendo> Sonic Heroes.
[17:59] <Ice_Dragon> In terms of story content, what's off limit to the editorial staff?
[17:59] <Ice_Dragon> Archie Comics seems to be the only publisher so wed to the CCA.
[17:59] <Donnyku> Riders, Shadow (though he's more of a side character)
[17:59] <Tendo> I'm not even counting Shadow the Hedgehog.
[17:59] <Tendo> And Riders.. had no plot worth discussing.
[17:59] <Ice_Dragon> (and the 1950's incarnation, at that.)
[17:59] <Ian_Flynn> Realistic fire-arms, injury, violence, and any kind of drugs/sex
[18:00] <Ian_Flynn> Which doesn't really belong in Sonic anyway, so we're all set.
[18:00] <Donnyku> so there's no real chance for a Shadow adaption? (thank god)
[18:00] <Ice_Dragon> G.U.N. soldiers were allowed realistic firearms in the games.
[18:00] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Violence? Injury?
[18:00] <Ice_Dragon> And yeah, StH.
[18:00] <Ian_Flynn> That's the games.
[18:00] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Fire-arms? SHADDOOWWWW
[18:00] <SSNWadmanKiddo> WHERe'S THAT DAMN FOURTH CHAOS EMERALD?
[18:00] <PerfectChaosZero> By injury, do they mean no injuries at all or serious gashes/bloody wounds?
[18:00] <Ice_Dragon> And this is a liscenced product.
[18:00] <Ice_Dragon> That's a good question.
[18:00] <PerfectChaosZero> I mean, we can still see an interesting story like Sonic breaking his leg
[18:00] <PerfectChaosZero> or no?
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[18:00] <Ian_Flynn> Right. No compound/exposed fractures =P
[18:01] <Tendo> Not likely if someone else was doing the breaking.
[18:01] <Kroze> Ahhh
[18:01] <Ice_Dragon> Maria was shot.
[18:01] <PorpoiseMuffins> Ian-- Sega's trademark department reviews each issue of Sonic, right?
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[18:01] <Ian_Flynn> I don't know which department, but everything does pass through Sega's hands before it sees print
[18:01] <Ice_Dragon> Where can I send my resume and a submission script?
[18:01] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Why -does- archie stick to the CCA so much, anyway?
[18:01] <PorpoiseMuffins> Ah, thanks.
[18:02] <PerfectChaosZero> Kiddo: Avoid lawsuits
[18:02] <Ian_Flynn> Because the company president helped create the CCA =P
[18:02] <Kroze> Ian, what have you been most influenced by when writing for sonic since you won't give us any spoilers?
[18:02] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Woah
[18:02] <SSNWadmanKiddo> That's an interesting perspective on in, Flynn.
[18:02] <Ian_Flynn> Ice - send it in to the regular Archie address, c/o Mike Pellerito
[18:02] <Ice_Dragon> Mwahahahaha.
[18:02] <Donnyku> oh god
[18:02] <Ian_Flynn> Good luck to ya ;)
[18:02] <PerfectChaosZero> Watch out Ian, this guy is serious about gunning for your job
[18:02] <H_Hog> uh-oh
[18:02] <Donnyku> you justed doomed up Ian
[18:02] <Meowtwo> The seventh seal has been broken!
[18:02] <Kroze> Now we are doomed!!
[18:03] <Ice_Dragon> The Archie offices are located in New York, correct?
[18:03] <Ian_Flynn> Correct
[18:03] <Ice_Dragon> Wonderful. I'm local.
[18:03] <Kroze> o.0
[18:03] <SSNWadmanKiddo> OSNAPS
[18:03] <SSNWadmanKiddo> ICE IS COMMING TO GET YA
[18:03] <Kroze> Running time!
[18:03] <H_Hog> The twelfth sign of the Apocolypse?
[18:03] <Meowtwo> Ginger osnaps?
[18:03] <H_Hog> (typo on purpose)
[18:03] <Kroze> Ian, what have you been most influenced by when writing for Sonic since you won't give us any spoilers?
[18:03] <Meowtwo> It's one through twelve. And the bonus number is 26.
[18:04] <Ian_Flynn> In terms of what, Kroze?
[18:04] <Ice_Dragon> well
[18:04] <SSNWadmanKiddo> I assume he means "Anything that can influence a comic"
[18:04] <Kroze> In terms of Story and direction
[18:04] <Ice_Dragon> I think I follow him.
[18:04] <PerfectChaosZero> I think he means in the way Penders liked to borrow a lot of Star Trek ideas
[18:04] <Ian_Flynn> General out-look for the book? Sense of adventure? Characterization?
[18:04] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Which, could mean, movies, TV, videogames, books...
[18:04] <Kroze> Yep
[18:04] <Ice_Dragon> When I write Sonic and Tails, I write "Gene Starwind and Jim Hawking"
[18:04] <Ian_Flynn> AH!
[18:05] <Ian_Flynn> I can see Tails as Jim. Sonic isn't anything like Gene.
[18:05] <Ian_Flynn> The dynamic is similar between the two, though.
[18:05] <H_Hog> ...who?
[18:05] <Tendo> He totally is.
[18:05] <Ice_Dragon> Outlaw Star, H
[18:05] <Kroze> Yeppers
[18:05] <Meowtwo> From Outlaw Star.
[18:05] <H_Hog> Ah.
[18:05] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Sonic isn't really like Gene, but his relationship with Tails is similar.
[18:05] <SSNWadmanKiddo> So it makes sense.
[18:05] <Donnyku> Ian, any chance of possibly seeing the Sonic the Comic style Super Sonic?
[18:05] <Meowtwo> Ha. No.
[18:05] <Ice_Dragon> I meant more as that dynamic, yes. Tails being the younger, yet more mature and responsible one.
[18:05] <Ian_Flynn> Kroze - Sonic. Honestly, I go off of the past comics, the games, the sountracks - I try to immerse myself in Sonic when it comes to Sonic.
[18:05] <H_Hog> Oh MAN that would rock
[18:05] <Ian_Flynn> Donnyku - Been there, done that.
[18:05] <PerfectChaosZero> I gotta say, it's good to know we have a writer who knows about things like Outlaw Star. It's nice to see someone cut from the same cloth as the rest of the fanbase.
[18:05] <Kroze> Heh
[18:06] <SSNWadmanKiddo> yeah, that is nice.
[18:06] <Ian_Flynn> Know of it? I have the box set ;)
[18:06] <Ice_Dragon> Have you ever considered writing for another title?
[18:06] <Ice_Dragon> Like, Spider-man or something along those lines?
[18:06] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Any chance we can have a Furry Pirate Vs. a Furry Ninja?
[18:06] <Meowtwo> ...
[18:06] <H_Hog> ...
[18:06] <Ian_Flynn> Sure. I'd love to do nothing but write. It's a matter of getting picked up, tho'
[18:06] <PerfectChaosZero> Hahaha, Kiddo XD
[18:06] <Kroze> rofl
[18:06] <Donnyku> XD nice Kiddo
[18:06] <H_Hog> or Monkey vs Robot
[18:06] <H_Hog> or wait
[18:06] <H_Hog> *oh
[18:07] <Ice_Dragon> Are the villians going to be a legitimate threat again? Because the potential in a character like Naugus has been wasted.
[18:07] <Kroze> Agreed
[18:07] <Ian_Flynn> Oooooooooooh man do I have plans for the villains
[18:07] * H_Hog realizes the complete obsoleteness of the previous statement, as Robots have been a general recurring theme in the Sonic universe
[18:07] <Ian_Flynn> You may question my direction (in fact, I know folks will at some points) but everything I do is the basis for something bigger
[18:07] <Ice_Dragon> Mammoth Mogul needs to be more than a radioactive elephantine Vandal Savage.
[18:07] <Smidge204> But sucky robots
[18:07] <Meowtwo> Will Eggman ever build a giant killer slot machine in the comic, as he did in Shadow the Hedgehog?
[18:07] <Kroze> XDD
[18:07] <Ice_Dragon> What about the Dark Legion?
[18:07] <Donnyku> how about having Eggman/Robotnik taking over the world again? (or has that happened or what?
[18:08] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Ice Dragon has a "big picture" in his head too.
[18:08] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Hrm.
[18:08] <Ian_Flynn> Every resolution, every story's end will have something set for the future
[18:08] <Smidge204> The game series has been getting less and less original in terms of robots
[18:08] <H_Hog> oh man the slotmachine
[18:08] <Meowtwo> I miss the cute robots.
[18:08] <Ian_Flynn> Time's up for me, folks. I gotta run.
[18:08] <SSNWadmanKiddo> aww.
[18:08] <PerfectChaosZero> Damnit Ian, now I have to actually start buying the comic again, because it's obvious that you're gearing up to pull the comic out of it's rutt.
[18:08] <Smidge204> Heroes has what, 5 types?
[18:08] <Ice_Dragon> I've always felt that the Dark Legion, (more to the point, mobians that willingly mechanize themselves) has much potential.
[18:08] <Meowtwo> p.p
[18:08] <SSNWadmanKiddo> Aw, well
[18:08] <H_Hog> What PC0 said
[18:08] <Meowtwo> Heroes has all damned Eggrobos.
[18:08] <Donnyku> oh well, shame it's time for you to go
[18:08] <SSNWadmanKiddo> It was nice meeting you, Flynn. You weren't quite what I expected, and that's actually a good thing. :D
[18:08] <Ian_Flynn> GOOD! READ MORE SONIC
[18:08] <Donnyku> good luck Ian
[18:08] <H_Hog> I should really look for another comicstore that'll import StC for me again
[18:09] <Meowtwo> Mobians that willingly mechanise themselves? Wow, that's a good one.
[18:09] <Swriter> Good luck, Ian. And stick to your guns with your stories, no matter what anyone says.
[18:09] <Ice_Dragon> It was indeed a pleasure talking to you. I await your stories.
[18:09] <Ian_Flynn> If I can't make it in tomorrow night, give my best to Mr. Hurst.
[18:09] <Smidge204> Thanks for dropping by! <3
[18:09] <Donnyku> H, IIRC StC ended (unless you mean Archie Sonic)
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[18:09] <SSNWadmanKiddo> I can't exactly say I'll "Read" the comic (I only read a few sparse issues)
[18:09] <H_Hog> A-duh
[18:09] <SSNWadmanKiddo> But I'll follow along.
[18:09] <PerfectChaosZero> Thanks a ton Ian
[18:09] <Ian_Flynn> Thanks for having me!
[18:09] <Ian_Flynn> Ta~
[18:09] <Kroze> It was nice talking to someone that knows what he is doing with his story
[18:09] <PerfectChaosZero> Yeah, have a good one!
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