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<PerfectChaosZero> boo yah
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<Smidge204> And there was much rejoicing
<ZZT> o_O
<H_Hog> yaaaaaaaaay
<H_Hog> :P
<Rayzor-FUS> yaaay
<Alicia_R> Like I said. Flaw that makes the masterpiece.
<Sonique> is this thing on?
<DavidTL> Sonic...Writer. There can be only one.
<Digiku> Sweet!
<Smidge204> Now BOW YOUR HEADS! /planet of the apes
<Sonic_Writer> The comic gods were against me.
<DeusEx> And I hope he gets swamped with PMs
<PerfectChaosZero> Ladies and Gentlemen, may I present, Ben Hurst
<Digiku> Hey
<Smidge204> No Ben, this is par for SAGE
<Rayzor-FUS> hello
<Alicia_R> Isn't that how comic gods always work? I mean, look at the original Batman.
<Sonux|Away> Hello
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<Alicia_R> Oh, and hi.
<Sonique> okay there we go FINALLY!
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<Sonic_Writer> Hello everyone. I hope all is well with ya'll
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<Smidge204> Ought to change it to SNAFUExpo
<Sonique> phew
<Sonic_Writer> LOL
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<DeusEx> Indeed
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<Bartman|AnimeRalHu> GASP
<Sonic_Writer> First question to answer for Jamie I believe - I went through my notes - and cannot for the life of me find any reference to a new power for Manic.
<Bartman|AnimeRalHu> *Pant* thanks, I'll be nice
<Sonic_Writer> Sorry.
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<DeusEx> Manic. Jebus...
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-PerfectChaosZero:@#sagexpo- Hey, I'm going to voice everyone
<Smidge204> No, Manic Hedgehog.
<DeusEx> I'm well aware.
-PerfectChaosZero:@#sagexpo- and devoice as we go, for noisier people
<Rayzor-FUS> he was jesus?
-PerfectChaosZero:@#sagexpo- sound good?
<Sonic_Writer> Sure.
<H_Hog> Doesn't look like Jamie's here, but I'm sure someone'll break the news to him
<ila> So, Mr. Hurst, you wrote the Doomsday episodes?
<Sonique> so i open the door and the cat starts yelling again
<Smidge204> Hold on to your asses, boys
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<Bartman|AnimeRally> ..
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<Sonic_Writer> ila yes.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Ah
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<Smidge204> All done
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<PerfectChaosZero> Smidge wins
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Thanks
<ila> Okay at the very end, who did that set of eyes belong to?
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<ila> Peeking out of the rubble.
<Sonique> Naugus
<H_Hog> w00t voice
<Nuckles87-FUS> Yey!
<Sonique> ask questions we don't all ready know XD
<ila> Sorry but I don't
<Sonic_Writer> We actually plotted all 11 episodes to work in the second season as though they were a feature film - though each episode also stood alone.
<Sonique> ili - it was Naugus XD
<DeusEx> How old is Ben?
<Digiku> lol
<Sonic_Writer> 54
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<Bartman|AnimeRally> Okay, Hurst, where are you working, now?
<DeusEx> Holy hell
<ila> Okay now that I got that out of the way.
<Sonic_Writer> Bartman, I work in a lot of different areas.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Still write for TV shows?
<ZZT> What's the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
<Sonic_Writer> I'm a concept designer for Museums - and for theme parks.
-PerfectChaosZero:@#sagexpo- that's the idea
<Jackel> Looking back, are you still proud of the work you did on the show, or are there things you have regrets about?
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<Sonic_Writer> Okay, we need to slow this down just a touch so I can keep up.
<PerfectChaosZero> Right-o Ben
<Smidge204> Deep breat everyone
<Alicia_R> Here's an idea.
<Sonic_Writer> Though, I do appreciate the references to Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
<Smidge204> breath*
<ila> Yeah I'm still catching mine
<H_Hog> XD
<Alicia_R> The original premise of asking questions down the list?
<H_Hog> Monty Python references never fall flat
<Alicia_R> How about only the person who's turn it is gets voiced, or something?
<Sonic_Writer> I don't work in animation or television anymore
<Sonic_Writer> Though if it were offered to me, I would.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Ah, I see, thats still cool, though
<Sonic_Writer> My most current project is an exhibition for the Smithsonian Institution
<Alicia_R> Oh, neat. I've wanted to check that place out for a while.
<Sonic_Writer> And a movie (we finished first draft yesterday yay!) live action, that I'm writing with Len Janson.
* Sonique bounces
<Sonique> i can't wait for that
<Sonic_Writer> For those who don't remember - he was our story editor on Satam.
<Sonic_Writer> We're still good friends - and the movie is a comedy
<Rayzor-FUS> what is it about?
<Smidge204> Ace
<H_Hog> Ah. Still working with contacts from older days, hm. =D
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Whats it called =P
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<H_Hog> Good thing.
<Sonic_Writer> I'm not revealing the subject matter yet, but I will release it first through Sonique - probably in about two months.
<Smidge204> Ace of Spades
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Lucky gal
<Sonic_Writer> It's highly unique and inspired by a historical character.
<Sonique> ^_^;
<Rayzor-FUS> lol
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Ah, thanks, Smidge
<Alicia_R> Do you plan on adding injokes pertaining to your earlier work?
<Sonic_Writer> Already did.
<Alicia_R> That's the spirit.
<H_Hog> Heheheh.
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<Digiku> lol, nice
<Sonic_Writer> One character says "OhmyGod"
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<Sonic_Writer> And the lead character at a key moment says, "Way past cool.
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<Rayzor-FUS> awesome
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Har
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<Digiku> Epic
<PerfectChaosZero> XD
<Sonique> maybe people will watch it and say "That reminds me of trhat Sonic show" and stir up interest
<H_Hog> And MARGARINE FWAHAHAHAHA
<Smidge204> ANy chilidog references?
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<Sonique> lol
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<DeusEx> Or say "WTF did he just say?"
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Then the guy'll kick up his heels and speed off =P
<Sonic_Writer> So, let me lay out a few things before we get into any more questions.
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<Sonic_Writer> And the chilidog reference is a good idea. I think I can work that in, too.
<RoboAshura> ello
<Sonique> test
<Sonique> okay
<Sonic_Writer> First. Pat Allee and I are next door neighbors and best friends. And we work together in the museum and theme park fields.
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<ZZT> ...Hmm... I can't think of anything serious to ask. May I ask a joke question?
<RoboAshura> w/b
<H_Hog> That musta been Snively's zaniest moment ever, the Antoine Escargot torture sequence :P But anyway.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> When hes done laying this out first
<RoboAshura> I'm confused.
<Digiku> Yeah.
<RoboAshura> What's going on?
<Sonic_Writer> I am indeed currently trying to resurrect the idea of a third season or Sonic film, but will not discuss the hows and wheres
<Alicia_R> We're taping a porn video.
<DeusEx> You came in late Ashura. SHush
<Ritz> Ben Hurst, dummy.
<RoboAshura> :O
<RoboAshura> Wow.
<Digiku> Remarkable.
<PerfectChaosZero> I can't wait
<H_Hog> I'm sure that this news will please MANY among the community.
<DeusEx> I have something major to ask about that.
<Ritz> Someone's logging this, right?
<OmegaHedgehog> Ben Hurst is here, now ask questions or shut it ._.
<Digiku> don't ask them just yet
<Alicia_R> I'm logging.
<Sonic_Writer> And my only restriction in this chat is that I will not respond to any questions regarding the conflict between myself and that certain comic book writer. That's a closed subject.
<H_Hog> I am, for one. I always log my chats.
<Ritz> Send me the log afterwards. :O
<H_Hog> We've been told, I believe.
<Rayzor-FUS> understood
<Digiku> Understood.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Yeah
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Or else we get DAS BOOT from PC0
<PerfectChaosZero> Let me add, that now that you've been told, bringing up this comic writer will result in a ban.
<Sonique> Greg Weismen?... OH Oh i know ^_^
<Smidge204> The "p" word is a bannable offence!
<Alicia_R> Penny!
<Sonique> XD
* H_Hog snickers at Bartman
<Sonic_Writer> About the incarnation - it's a long shot, but I think I have a strategy that is unique and might prove effective.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> See? I remembered =P
<NikJam> Good thing I forgot his name
<Sonic_Writer> Time will tell.
<NikJam> No wait
<NikJam> I remember it now
<ila> Someones going to push it...
<NikJam> Good thing I'm not talking much!
<Sonic_Writer> And no boot for mentioning his name. Just, I won't respond. :)
<PerfectChaosZero> XD
<RoboAshura> XD
<Smidge204> You're no fun!
<PerfectChaosZero> You're the boss Ben.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> "Give 'im the knee"
<H_Hog> Sounds fair enough :P
<Smidge204> I thought you ere cool!
<Rayzor-FUS> XD
<Sonique> it'd be funny if he came in XD
<Meta-Knight> Spared due to Ben's mercy. =)
<Nelson> Ok, ok. I have a question.
<Sonic_Writer> Okay, I've not chatted on mIRC for a long time. What does XD mean?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I'd kind of want to do that joke name, but meh
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Its a laugh
<RoboAshura> What was supposed to happen in the lost season?
<Smidge204> XD is the new LOL
<Sonique> XD = laughing face
<Sonique> it's like lol
<Wave> its a laugh emotion
<Meta-Knight> It's a hyper happy emoticon.
<Alicia_R> Tilt your head to the left.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> X is the closed eyes
<H_Hog> XD is a smilie.
<RoboAshura> Look at it sideways
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<PerfectChaosZero> It's an emoticon, mishevious laughter is what it means
<Sonique> okay he gets it guys XD
<H_Hog> X is eyes closed and D is a wide grin
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Which is why it looks funny on that upcoming Pokemon game "Pokemon XD"
<Smidge204> (LOL for the lazy)
<Sonic_Writer> Ah!
<ila> RoboAshura: http://www.satamsonic.com
<Ritz> Ben, can you autograph my .txt file? D:
<RoboAshura> So, Ben.
<RoboAshura> What was supposed to happen in the lost season?
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<Bartman|AnimeRally> Pokemon LOL
<RoboAshura> Oh. :P
<Sonique> okay there's 10 explainations there
<Sonique> Robo, you can go to FUS and read about that
<Sonic_Writer> Lessee.
<H_Hog> Can't blame us for being helpful :D
<Rayzor-FUS> we can
<PerfectChaosZero> Well, let's hear from Ben, lol, might be interesting to see his P.O.V. on it
<Sonic_Writer> As Sonique said, I've written about that already.
<PerfectChaosZero> Unless he dosen't want to >.>
<Alicia_R> I dunno. I'd rather not have ten people helping me done plate armor.
<DeusEx> GOnnamake this quick Ben, as I'm at a family BBQ... should Season 3 be put out, how do you see the animation to look like? Surely not the anime-ish style of the SonicX series.
<Sonic_Writer> And I've also done some more recent writing (last year) that started to lay out more specifics.
<Sonique> http://www.satamsonic.com/episodes/lost.html
<Sonic_Writer> The animation would be very much like Season II
<JTE2> ... SatAM has a lost season?
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<Sonic_Writer> If I had any control over it.
<H_Hog> *rejoice*
<Ritz> Falc. ^^
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Look at Sonique's link, JTE
<JTE2> 'Kay.
<Sonique> lost season info: http://www.satamsonic.com/episodes/lost.html but careful, it hasn't been updated in a while and there's a midi
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<Falc> Thank you.
<Sonic_Writer> Now, the specifics of what will happen in Season 3 will have to remain unknowns, but I can tell you a few things.
<Smidge204> Let's try to keep the idle chitchat to a minimum, it's already quite busy in here
<Falc> Theres a Season 3? :D
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<Sonic_Writer> Trying to decide which one.
<Rayzor-FUS> oh god
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<Sonic_Writer> There's a season 3 in my mind - either feature film or episodes.
<Sonic_Writer> And I'm trying to turn it to reality, but that's happening behind the scenes.
<Alicia_R> A direct-to-video release sounds like it'd be the more feasible option nowadays.
<Falc> Episodes, please. >_>
<Rayzor-FUS> which would you prefer? film or episodes?
<Falc> Episodes. :o
<Sonic_Writer> Episodes, definitely.
<RMI-FUS> episodes
<Ritz> Eps, yeah.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Hmm
<Sonic_Writer> Because that could possibly ressurect the series.
<Rayzor-FUS> same
<Falc> Film would be nice, but it wouldn't be as much of a hit, if you ask me.
<ZZT> If the episodes are on DVD, will there be director's commentary and stuff?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> If it were in episodes, it'd be a little irritating to catch it weekdays
<Sonic_Writer> Snively becomes supreme...for a while.
<Alicia_R> Even though I'd like episodes, the majority of Sonic fans (read: those without the internet) would get it confused with Sonic X. =\
<Bartman|AnimeRally> But I would still watch it
<NikJam> I'm a little worried about the ratings that would get
<Falc> Theres a lot of difference between SatAM and Sonic X.
<NikJam> Or what channel it'd be on
<Alicia_R> Tell that to the kids that saw Sonic X first.
<Sonic_Writer> Sonic will go through a character transformation - a temporary one, only, but will become quite different for a time.
<Nelson> Speaking of Sonic X, I was wondering what you thought of Sonic X? Did you manage to see the original version, or have you only seen the US release of it?
<Rayzor-FUS> yes falc, for instance SatAM was good
<Falc> I wouldn't care, I love SatAM. XD
<NikJam> BUUUUURN at sonic x
<JTE2> I never have the chance to watch any of the SatAM episodes because they're on at like.. 6:00AM on weekdays. ;_;
<Ritz> Besides, the cartoon isn't that well known outside of the Sonic community, as well as newcomers to the Sonic franchise, so if a movie with Sally, Rotor and the rest of the SATAM gang just popped up, it'd be pretty confusing.
<Falc> Rayzor, my thoughts exactly. ;)
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Shhh
<Sonic_Writer> And Sally will be romanced by someone other than Sonic.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I want to hear what he thinks of Sonic X
<NikJam> I don't think SATAM's on here
<Rayzor-FUS> I'd never get the chance cos it takes us 2 years to get anything over here :(
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Mmm
<Alicia_R> Yeow. Another love triangle?
<JTE2> It's on some channel called ITV over here.
<Alicia_R> (omg mina lorofl)
<Sonic_Writer> Finally, Dulcy would mature and come into her full powers and prove to be a dominant force.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Interracial love just looks weird
<Rayzor-FUS> yea i know but i dont/cant get ITV2
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Squirrelhogs
<Alicia_R> Barty.
<Alicia_R> Take a look at the Furry fandom sometime.
<Smidge204> And people get all worked up over Sonic/Amy/Sally, even though they are different universes
<JTE2> Dulcy? I still haven't seen her in any episodes.
<Falc> I'm a furry.
<Sonic_Writer> And that's all the info on 3 I feel comfortable talking about.
<Nelson> She's the dragon. :P
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I know, I know
<Sz> Ben, have you read NetRaptor's fanfiction (the best Sonic fanfiction there is, if I may say so), and (related question), have you considered putting other "SegaSonic" aspects into the story if SatAM was somehow reborn?
<Alicia_R> Primary-colored Sonic fan characters don't count as furries. :)
<JTE2> Yeah. I know.. I've seen some pictures of her.
<Falc> Why not?
<Sonic_Writer> I can't read fanfiction for legal reasons.
<RMI-FUS> absurd
<Nelson> Well, anyway, do you have an answer for my question about Sonic X?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Wow, companies put limits on that?
<Sz> Not altering the core universe really, or doing some Archie alternate universe rubbish, but tossing in aspects that are in the games?
<Jackel> What about Antoine, would he have gone through any changes in character in season 3?
<Digiku> I never would've known
<Sonic_Writer> And I've never read the comics. Though I do read some of the reviews of them.
<Rolken> So that they don't have the potential to get in issues over him stealing others' ideas
<H_Hog> Hm. That really is a shame - while there's plenty of utter tripe to dig through, some are truly gems.
<Sonic_Writer> Big surprise in store with Antoine.
<Alicia_R> Antoine becomes useful?
<Smidge204> He comes out of the closet?
<Falc> Antoine. ^_^
<Rayzor-FUS> haha
<Falc> LMAO!
<Alicia_R> One and the same, Smidge.
<Meta-Knight> He quits being a coward?
<H_Hog> So that also leaves out Other-M (fan-comic), huh.
<Sz> I wasn't aware of the fanfiction thing. That's... rather idiotic, if I may say so.
<Sonic_Writer> And the legal reasons are because if I read other works - then I can't use anything they come up with.
<Sonique> <Smidge204> He comes out of the closet? AHAHAHAHHAHA
<Falc> What can you say?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Because then you'd have to give htem money
<Falc> Or what can't you say? ;)
<Rolken> forgive me if this was asked before, but would you put any odds on season 3 actually happening?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> In fear of you stealing their ideas
<Sz> Ah, I see
<Sonic_Writer> If I keep my "hands clean" - so to speak, then I'm free to just create.
<Ice_Dragon> Ben: According to IMDB, you've written episodes of The Real Ghostbusters as well as, of course, Sonic the Hedgehog. Seeing as how both of these series consumed much of my youth, I'd like to know, which one did you enjoy working for more?
<H_Hog> Aww, Antoine deserves love, too =o
<Sonic_Writer> Sonic wins my vote, hands down.
<Falc> ^_^
<Bartman|AnimeRally> What kind of animal is Anty?
<Sz> Is it plausible that if you ran across a particularly brilliant idea, you could ask the creator for permission to use it?
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<Alicia_R> Bart: A french fox of some sort.
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<H_Hog> Bart: I believe he's a coyote
<TurquoiseStar> Hi
<Sz> (purely hypothetical, just wondering)
<Sonic_Writer> I won't be running across ideas, so that's a moot point.
<Nelson> ...
<JTE2> I always thought Antoine was a squirrel. X_x
<Sonic_Writer> I avoid all other incarnations of Sonic like the plague.
<Nelson> Oh, wait.
<Sz> Ah.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Antoine is his own kind
<Nelson> Let me guess: You haven't watched Sonic X either, right?
<Sonic_Writer> Nelson:no.
<Nuckles87-FUS> Ben, I got a question. How exactly did you become involved in Sonic the Hedgehog originally? Were you part of the original pitch, or did you get involved later on?
<Smidge204> NOt a great loss there
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Hey wait
<Alicia_R> Goddamnit, Smidge. =/
<Alicia_R> Now I'm skimming Yahoo Groups again.
<Nelson> No you have, or no you haven't?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> SatAM and Adventures of Sonic aired almost simeltaneously
<Sonic_Writer> I'll take the Nuckles question...
<Bartman|AnimeRally> How were the two shows split apart?
<H_Hog> Nelson: Haven't, obviously
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I mean, were there like, two completely seprate teams or what?
<Rayzor-FUS> bartman go here www.satamsonic.com
<Falc> Are there gonna be any new things in Season 3, something surising?
<Alicia_R> Already answered, Falc.
<Nelson> I'll answer that one.
<Sonic_Writer> I was an episodic writer on the first season - with Len Janson as story editor. I'd worked with him on a number of previous series.
<Falc> oooh. :(
<Rayzor-FUS> then on the menu go down to Frequently Asked Questions
<TurquoiseStar> so, Sonic_Writer, you worked on the old Sonic cartoon?
<Falc> Did you enjoy working on SatAM?
<DeusEx> I have to apologize Ben, but one more and I'm going to log off. Would you aim the episodes (Season 3) more so on the younger audience, or toward the followers who, such as myself, are already well into their adult lives. ...(And are sick and tired of SonicX and Heroes...)
<Sonic_Writer> Then, he approached me and Pat and we decided to become a team and map out the second season as though it were pieces of a feature film.
<Nelson> Bart: AOSTH was EXTREMELY light hearted, with Mobius generally looking like something done by Picasso.
<H_Hog> Heh
<H_Hog> Still, I liked the show
<Jackel> Are there any non-sonic animated series you watch? (american cartoons and japanese anime)
<H_Hog> Scratch and Grounder were awesome henchmen :P
<Nelson> SAT-AM is closer to what the Archie Comic had in the early days.
<TurquoiseStar> I loved the old Sonic show :D
<Sonic_Writer> AOSTH - I pitched, but the story editors didn't like me and Pat, so we never got to write for it. Ironic, that.
<JTE2> AoSTH rocked. :D
<Rayzor-FUS> wow
<H_Hog> o_O
<Sonic_Writer> And as for writing - we just write good stories. No regard to age.
<DeusEx> AoSTH still rocks, what are you talking about
<Alicia_R> Nel: I think the comic was what came first. The first episode of SATAM used the comic color schemes (eg. Pink Sally and Purple Rotor)
<Nelson> I know.
<JTE2> It rocked because Tails could keep up with Sonic at times. o_o;
<OmegaHedgehog> AoStH was awesome =/
<Falc> Sonic_Writer, Did you enjoy working on SatAM?
<Jackel> I never quite enjoyed AoStH as much as SATAM. Even at that age I prefered interesting stories to goofy stuff.
<H_Hog> Alicia: I think you mean the LAST episode of AOSTH
<DeusEx> Thanks Ben. Take care.
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<Nelson> But I'm using it for comparison.
<Sonic_Writer> Falc - very much so. It was a good team in many ways.
<H_Hog> oh wait
<Meta-Knight> Would you mind telling us why is the SATAM universe seems to be so dear to your heart?
<Nuckles87-FUS> Thx, Ben.
<Sonic_Writer> The artists were so excited they would drag me down to their floor to show me backgrounds.
<Sonic_Writer> Especially for BtotheP
<Ice_Dragon> Ben: What advice would you give to someone that wants to write professionally?
<Falc> Sonic_Writer, You say about this good team, are you working with the same team in Season 3?
<Sonic_Writer> Falc: yes
<Sonic_Writer> Gimme a second to read back. I'm missing stuff while I'm writing.
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<Ritz> I still want you to sign my .txt file.
<Cinossu> ... :o I've missed stuff.. there is gonna be a season 3?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Ritz - Not now
<Meta-Knight> Cinossu: Yes.
<Digiku> He's trying
<H_Hog> ...
<Smidge204> A log will be provided!
<Meta-Knight> Basically, what the others said.
<Cinossu> ... yes
<Falc> Oh yes!
<Sonic_Writer> Okay, I've read back.
<Smidge204> Now settle down
<Cinossu> I am a happy bunny now
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<Sonic_Writer> SATAM was "dear to my heart" because the characters came alive for us.
* Meta-Knight sets mode: +v The_Ultimate_Lifeform
<H_Hog> Don't worry, you didn't miss a lot, Sonique
<Sonique> before asking a question, please check here: http://www.satamsonic.com/faq.html
<Sonic_Writer> Len's editing, Pat's dialogue and my plotting almost seemed to interweave themselves.
<Falc> Sonic_Writer, Do you have any idea how long Season 3 will be?
<Smidge204> Falc
<Sz> In Season 3, and plans to include other Sonic characters (eg Knuckles)
<Sonique> Ben doesn't ven know who Knuckles is XD
<Sonic_Writer> And everyone on the team was excited. We all gathered on Friday nights for Pizza and to watch the raw footage come back from Asia.
<JTE2> Will the UK get season 3 too? :O
<Cinossu> (please yes c.c)
<Rayzor-FUS> We'd better
<Sz> *any?
<Sonic_Writer> I've never been on a cartoon series where anyone did that.
<Smidge204> *sigh*
<Fester_Blatz> Speaking of the other series... I don't know about anyone else, but i'm curious about the closure of the sonic underground storyline. I don't think the show got its props considering the conditions under which it was produced.
<Sonique> you guys realize he hasn't confirmed that a Season 3 is coming out right?
<Falc> Smidge?
<OmegaHedgehog> XD
<PerfectChaosZero> JTE: He's TRYING to setup a season three, it won't be any time soon and may be a movie instead, if he can set it all up.
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<Sonic_Writer> And that really is a big IF
<Smidge204> Falc, please read wat others are saying. Much of your questions were already answered
<Sonique> CHEEZEMATT =D
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Read the FAQ if you want to know about Season 3 (Topic it, plz)
<Sonic_Writer> My approach is unorthodox - so it's a gamble.
<Cheezmatt> Yes, I'm here.
<Sonique> or this
<Falc> Smidge, sorry, I only just got here. :i
<Cheezmatt> I missed a lot, didn't I?
<Smidge204> Hush
* PerfectChaosZero changes topic to 'Welcome to SAGE's Ben Hurst event! Special thanks to our sponsors: http://www.satamsonic.com | http://www.sonicstadium.org | http://www.sonichq.org | http://sonikku.com | http://sfghq.emulationzone.org | FAQ: http://www.satamsonic.com/faq.html'
<Cinossu> ....dear god the colours
<Sonique> before asking questions, check these two pages: http://www.satamsonic.com/faq.html and http://www.satamsonic.com/episodes/lost.html
<Smidge204> We all know nobo0dy reads topics
<RMI-FUS> MY CORNEAS
<BlazeHedgehog> Argh! The blue, the blue!
<Sonic_Writer> So, what questions have I missed? I must say, it's a bit overwhelming.
<Falc> Can we have a log of what has happen to this point, it will help, I think.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Our apologies, Ben
<Cheezmatt> Overwhelming is right.
<Sonique> how about this one?
<Smidge204> Logging... BRB
<Cinossu> Sonique, please, do you have to link every 2 minutes? :P
<Sonique> i wanted them to put that in the topic XD
<Cinossu> hmm, okay
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Anyway, lemme crack at it
<Cinossu> !op Cinossu
<PerfectChaosZero> Cinos: people have been lasking. Sonique: I'm out of topic space X.X
<Cinossu> ..oh yes
<Sonique> hey Ben do you know who the third party is thats stopping DiC from releasing SatAM? is it Sega?
* Cinossu is now known as Marc
<Sonique> PC0: ok
<Marc> !op Marc
<Sonic_Writer> No apologies necessary. Just trying to keep up.
<JTE2> Most people don't usually bother looking at topics in most channels.
<Marc> ....ahahah
<Marc> Sagebot isn't opped?
* BlazeHedgehog sets mode: +o Marc
<Sonic_Writer> I can help a bit. I'll summarize.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Yes, whats this 3rd party thats stopping DVD releases of SatAM?
<The_Ultimate_Lifeform> I think I have my mIRC settins for logs. let me check.
<Sonique> i just realized i never asked him that XD
<Ritz> I thought there were DVD releases already?
<Nelson> It's probably 4Kids. :P
<Sonic_Writer> First, I am engaged in a very long shot effort to get either a third season of Satam or a Movie that would cover the same area under way.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Just one -rare- DVD release
<Rayzor-FUS> There is, but it only has 5 eps on it
<Smidge204> http://smidge204.homeftp.net:84/sagexpo.log
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<Smidge204> Save/view as plain text
<Sonic_Writer> I'm not revealing details because that wouldn't be smart. :)
<Marc> ...aiee
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<Sonique> whoa
<Falc> Smidge, thanks.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Heh =P
* Marc sets mode: -o Marc
<Marc> better
<Sonic_Writer> If there were a third season (my preference) it would be the standard 13 episodes.
<Smidge204> Leave the topic alone, nobody will read it anyway
<Nuckles87-FUS> Ben, could you describe to us the process in which you pitched, wrote, and formed the episodes? Or is that too long?
<Sonique> ahah he didn't do it al himself you know
<Nuckles87-FUS> I know
<Nuckles87-FUS> I didn't really mean him alone
<Nuckles87-FUS> But the entire group. Artists, other writers, editors, etc.
<Nuckles87-FUS> Sorry ;)
<Sonic_Writer> Well, as far as the episodes were laid out - those pretty much did come from me. That's my talent. I'm able to see a big picture.
<Ritz> 'Ey Ben, how much do you get paid for this stuff? :P
<JTE2> Why do you care, Ritz? o_O
<Sonic_Writer> I also created the background continuity which was dramatically different from Sega's - and Len Janson defended our continuity against them.
<Sonic_Writer> Because he felt is was better.
<Smidge204> SEGA has continuity?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> What kind of flak did Sega give to you?
<Falc> Ben, What do you expect to come out of this? Major success?
<Sonic_Writer> We were well-paid, but we never receive residuals in animation :(
<Jackel> If given the opportunity today, would you go back to working on more episodes of the series?
<Smidge204> Jackel
<Sonique> yes he would
<Falc> Jackel, theres gonna be a season 3. :)
<Sonic_Writer> Falc: I have no idea. I'm just giving it the last hero's try.
<Smidge204> Please read. I *know* you were here for that.
<TurquoiseStar> Sonic_Writer, have you ever met the Sonic Creator, Yuji Naka?
<Sonique> Falc: You aren't paying attention are you? >_<
<Rayzor-FUS> Falc: There MIGHT be a season 3
* Jackel is toggling between a few different things, so he appologizes if he asks something that was already asked
<Falc> Sonic_Writer, just like Sonic would. ;-)
<Sonic_Writer> TurquoiseSTAR: No
<Sonic_Writer> Advice to writers:
<Falc> Okay okay, maybe I got my hopes up. D:
<Nuckles87-FUS> Cool. Good to hear you can visualize such a big picture. Thats the trait of a great writer.
<JTE2> I told you most people don't pay attention. o.o
<Sonic_Writer> There are many paths to writing.
<DragonSuperSonic> I must really say that your work is trult excellent. For example Blast to the Past ep1&2. Since the first ep of SatAM I wanted to know the background story. And when those ep's came the storyline just got better.
<PerfectChaosZero> Hey Ben, I got a question. Often in the show, Snively showed himself to have more common sense than Robotnik, even be smarter at times. Does this mean Snively is perhaps more dangerous than his uncle? Or does he lack Ivo's strength and ambition?
<Sonic_Writer> And your creativity as a writer has to be matched by your creativity as a marketer.
* Quits: PerfectChaosZero
<Sonic_Writer> You need to decide what kind of writing you're going to do - they point your energies in that direction.
<H_Hog> ...
<Smidge204> Wrong button
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<Mogzin_Thunder> Hmm?
<Sonic_Writer> they=then
<Sonique> lol
<Mogzin_Thunder> Oh am I missing this?
<PerfectChaosZero> Did my question get through?
<Smidge204> Yes
<Sonique> ys it did PC0
<Mogzin_Thunder> yes
<H_Hog> Yep
<Nuckles87-FUS> Yeah, I noticed that in my feeble attempts at writing.
<PerfectChaosZero> Did I miss the answer? lol
<H_Hog> nope
<Sonique> no XD
<Sonic_Writer> Chaos - I'll get to it.
<Sonic_Writer> Finishing up on "advice to writers"
<PerfectChaosZero> I'm in no rush
<PerfectChaosZero> ;D
<Sonique> that was quite an exit BTW
<H_Hog> Metal Gear Solid 2 ;P
<PerfectChaosZero> XD
<Sonic_Writer> Mark Twain said, "Write for free for a year. If at the end of that year no one has offered money, then go back to sawing wood, which is what you are intended for."
<Sonic_Writer> I think that's a little harsh, but not far off the mark.
<Cheezmatt> Heh, interesting.
<Cheezmatt> Question. Which characters did you have a hand in creating?
<Falc> Any advice for programmers? :(
<Sonic_Writer> If you're a good writer, and you diligently submit samples to those who can do something with them, you'll get a response.
* PerfectChaosZero sets mode: -v Falc
<Bartman|AnimeRally> So just write a letter from the alphabet, give it to a kid and ask for a penny, does this work?
<Ritz> XD
<Sonique> PerfectChaosZero sets mode: -v Falc - thank you
<Mogzin_Thunder> hmm
<JTE2> I'll be back in... an hour of so.
<Sz> Mr Hurst, let me preface this by saying that I loved your work on SatAM, Season 2 especially. That said, I do feel like if you have limited knowledge of what the Sonic series is today (Sonic Adventure, etc), and neglect the characters that are a big part of the franchise... I don't see how a Season 3 of SatAM can get support beyond some loyal fans. Now, obviously taking away from what you've got would be bad...
<Sz> However, I really feel like characters like Knuckles need to be included, even if it's just for a single episode...
* JTE2 is now known as JTE2|AFK
<Nuckles87-FUS> Haha, thanks for the advice Ben. I'll put it to use in the future.
<Sonic_Writer> In today's market, it's complex. But, there are guides, like "Writer's Digest" - they have a website - that can help you find the market for your work.
* Parts: Ice_Dragon
<Sz> That's just been bugging me about the whole Season 3 thing
<TurquoiseStar> Somehow, I just don't like "Sonic X" as much
<Sz> The Sonic universe has changed a ton in 12 years
<PerfectChaosZero> Slow down people
* Parts: Falc
<Sonique> the only Sonic Univese that's stayed the same is SatAM... probably becuase it only had 2 seasons but...
<Nuckles87-FUS> Writiers Digest...never heard of them. I will be sure to look them up. Thanks again :D.
<Sonic_Writer> And if you're wanting to write animation - contact active animation companies - ask for sample scripts on active series (like Disney, Nick, etc.)
<Sonic_Writer> Then...
<Sz> SatAM was brilliant. So it had staying power
<Sz> (has?)
<Sonic_Writer> Subscribe to Hollywood Reporter.
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<Sonic_Writer> Every week, they have a list of shows that are accepting freelance submissions of sample scripts.
<Wave> Ben, what inspired you to become a writer?
* Meta-Knight sets mode: +v DimensionWarped
<Ritz> Falc's crushed, by the way. XD
<Cheezmatt> Just wondering if my last question got through.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Ah yes, those are called Spec-scripts too, right?
<Nuckles87-FUS> Whoa, I gotta type this down.
<Sonic_Writer> Wave: I'll get that in a while. I'm behind on questions.
<Sonic_Writer> Yes, Bart.
<Digiku> Thanks for the info, I've been looking into animation myself
<Rayzor-FUS> And me, thanks
<Sonic_Writer> Okay. Short break while I read back and see which question is next.
<Cheezmatt> Okay, let's wait a bit.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I remember listening to commentaries on Simpsons DVDs of them getting freelance writers
<H_Hog> Y know, people... it would help if you got your questions in AFTER another question has finished. There's still plenty time left as far as I recall.
<Sonique> Ben should write for Simpsons, he might make it good again
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Like the one where Homer has a heart attack
<Smidge204> Let's all go to the Lobby, Let's all go to the Lobby! Let's all go to the Lobby, and have ourselves a treat!
<Sonique> lol
<H_Hog> That way, Ben won't get backlogged so much
<H_Hog> :P
<The_Ultimate_Lifeform> Erm...
<Cheezmatt> Yes, true.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Simpsons is pretty much dead now
<DimensionWarped> Someone has been logging this, correct?
<Rayzor-FUS> Very
<H_Hog> signed
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Even though I AM named Bartman =P
<Meta-Knight> Correct.
<PerfectChaosZero> Lots of people are logging it
<Sonic_Writer> There was a question about continuity from Sega. They did have a continuity, but it was not clearly articulated and pardon the expression, it didn't "hang together."
<Rolken> I'm sure lots of people are logging
<The_Ultimate_Lifeform> I am, for one (I think).
<Sonique> family guy is where it's at..
<Sonic_Writer> Even fantasy worlds have to make sense.
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<Sonique> ooohhh CRAP im missing family guy ;_;
* Meta-Knight sets mode: +v Bidel
<Rayzor-FUS> Nique: Amen to that
<Smidge204> I was being sarcastic, Ben, but thanks
<Bartman|AnimeRally> No you arent
<Sonique> isn't it on Sundays? the new episodes?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> You're missing Jurassic Park =P
<Sonique> yay ^_^
<Bartman|AnimeRally> and new eps are over, along with American Dad
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<DragonSuperSonic> I log all the way from yesterday.
<Sonic_Writer> Chaos, you asked about Snively
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<H_Hog> Sonic games never were much for epic stories - there's not really place for 'em either, them being platformers and all. Epic stories are for Roleplaying games.
<Ritz> Robo, keep it in your pants.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Not always, H
<Sz> H: Sonic Adventure was epic
<Bartman|AnimeRally> A game like a platformer can have a story
<DimensionWarped> excuse me?
<Sonique> like Final Fantasy
<RoboAshura> SA2 was too
<DimensionWarped> Sonic Adventure and SA2 were not epic in story...
<Smidge204> Welcome to #sagexpo. Please keep both hands on the keyboard at all times.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Let Ben talk about Snotley
<H_Hog> Good, sure. Epic? Moh.
<Sz> SA2 was less epic though, despite being on a larger scale
<PerfectChaosZero> Yep
<H_Hog> I dunno.
<Sz> If a civilization dies, it's epic
<DimensionWarped> As a matter of fact, I almost would have trouble classifying Xenosaga as "epic".
<Sonic_Writer> In the continuity that was never released...Snively was Robotnik's relative. In season 2 we were building his resentment...
<Smidge204> "Epic" compared to "Eggman's trying to take over the world! Stop him!"
<H_Hog> The story held the plot to the games together, sure. And I'm not saying they were written badly. But epic is... like... Lord of the Rings or what have you.
<Sonique> ROFL
<Sonic_Writer> And in season 3 there was going to be a dramatic transformation.
<Mogzin_Thunder> Well... I do have a question... Is it taboo to have continuity in an... uh... somewhat demanding way? :P
<Sonique> guys come on
<Cheezmatt> Topic, please. Let's stay on it.
<Sonic_Writer> If, in two years I have not been able to execute a further incarnation of sonic, I'll write up the third season in narrative form and send it out to ya'll.
<Sonique> yay ^_^
<PerfectChaosZero> Ben: Transformation?
<Sonique> then we can animated it in Flash
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Thats awesome
<Meta-Knight> We'd appreciate it.
<Cheezmatt> Swish!
<Sz> H: I figure Epic is just a watermark. You can go above that
<Digiku> That's nice of you :)
<H_Hog> *rejoicement some more*
<Rayzor-FUS> That is freakin' sweet
<The_Ultimate_Lifeform> What was Snivleys role supposed to be in in Season 3?
<Sonic_Writer> Yes , a major character transformation.
<Sz> That'd be cool, Ben
<Bartman|AnimeRally> We'd just steal animation frm SatAM
<Sz> Bart: XD
<Mogzin_Thunder> :o
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Give Sonic a talk show and animate him like Space Ghost
<PerfectChaosZero> Any details about 'who' Snively becomes?
<Sonic_Writer> That's as much as I will say about Snively at this point. I wouldn't want to spoil it for you.
<ila> Guys, #srb2 is the chatroom.
<H_Hog> Have Roger (IMP) make a Flash series XD XD
<PerfectChaosZero> hehehe, alright
* H_Hog is promptly shot
<Sonic_Writer> Could someone do a double-check and see which questions I've missed, please?
<Mogzin_Thunder> I did have one...
<Fester_Blatz> [here's mine, reposted] Speaking of the other series... I don't know about anyone else, but i'm curious about the closure of the sonic underground storyline. I don't think the show got its props considering the conditions under which it was produced.
<PerfectChaosZero> [18:01] <+Cheezmatt> Question. Which characters did you have a hand in creating?
<Mogzin_Thunder> I asked if it's taboo to have a demanding continuity. :P
<DimensionWarped> I do believe someone asked you what your inspiration was to become a writer.
<Cheezmatt> [repost] Question. Which characters did you have a hand in creating?
<Mogzin_Thunder> like ongoing stories.
<DragonSuperSonic> How come I can't join #srb2? It says I'm banned although I have never been there before?
<Sonic_Writer> Fester first then.
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<DimensionWarped> Perhaps your ISP was banned.
<Sonic_Writer> Sonic Underground - this will take a few minutes for me to write up, so be patient.
* Quits: Bidel
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Thats alright
<Sonique> didn't he write that up the other night? did anyone save it?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Wait
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Ben had a hand in Underground?
<DragonSuperSonic> Why would someone ban a ISP. It's one of the biggest ISP's in my country.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> "and he came up with earthworms!"
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<Sonic_Writer> In the early days of the company that became DIC, people at the head of the company discovered they could make as much or more money from song royalties as they could off of animation.
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<Sonic_Writer> And the songs were the driving force (monetarily) behind Sonic Underground.
<Smidge204> Maybe your biggest ISP in your coutry has the biggest jackass in your country as a customer?
<H_Hog> Heh... living in the Netherlands, I've never had the opportunity to watch a single Sonic Underground episode at all. c_c
<Sonic_Writer> The people who created the continuity for SU just slapped it together without a great deal of thought - and with no regard to SATAM.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Aw
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<PerfectChaosZero> H: You missed little
<Bartman|AnimeRally> So the whole thing about Underground was to just make money, no care or thought in the story?
<PerfectChaosZero> H: SatAM is where the goods are
<Sonic_Writer> Pat Allee and I wound up as story editors after we wrote the first episode. It was so much better than the existing story editor's episode that they fired him and hired us.
<Sonic_Writer> And put us on a two-script a week schedule.
<Cheezmatt> ghhhk.
<Nuckles87-FUS> Youch
<H_Hog> PC0: I know, I know. But in the name of curiosity, I can't help but want to watch the other series, too.
<Cheezmatt> Two scripts per week...
<PerfectChaosZero> That's like... a script every 2 days XD
<Nuckles87-FUS> Crazy nutters/
<PerfectChaosZero> err 3 days
<DimensionWarped> 3.5 days...
<Sonic_Writer> The reason the series is any good at all (not being humble here) is because Pat and I wrote a bunch of them - and Len Janson wrote a bigger bunch (if you remember, he's the story editor from Satam)
<Wave> woah thats like slavery
<DimensionWarped> eh?
<Sonique> SU was good?... kidding
<Nuckles87-FUS> :|
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Just write a story one two weeks, then a clip show! Easy money!
<H_Hog> now now
<H_Hog> I'm sure it had its moments
<Jackel> The songs really got me cringing
<Sonic_Writer> The songs were particularly difficult to work in.
<H_Hog> despite never having seen it c_c
<Sonique> i liked some of the songs
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Who wrote the songs? Or were they just tacked on? =P
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Me too
<Fester_Blatz> there were a few things in it that i thought really worked well, namely that there were actually populated cities with economy and culture
<PerfectChaosZero> If you remove the songs, SU is okay.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I liked "Fun in the Sun"
<Sonic_Writer> They got songwriters in the LA area to sign off most of their ASCAP/BMI royalties to DIC - and remain anonymous in the process.
<Smidge204> Remove the magical instruments, too
<Jackel> It was kind of interesting to actually have an animated version of Knuckles though
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<H_Hog> Hm. So faceless songs by faceless artists, huh
<Sonic_Writer> yep.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> if you gave Sonic an obnoxious dog who solves mysteries on accident, and a hippie
<Bartman|AnimeRally> You get Scooby Sonic Doo
<Sonic_Writer> LOL
<Mogzin_Thunder> Freedom from embarassment? :P
<Jackel> Were there ever plans to bring knuckles into SATAM? I remember wondering where he was when I was a kid, hoping he'd show up in "this episode" or "that episode"
<Sonique> FYI, Ben sent me a tape of some SU songs withjout sound effects AND some of the songs are before the band went though any noise tweeking so you can hear what they originally sounded like
<Smidge204> ANd get someone other than Fran Drescher on helium to do Sonia's voice
<Marc> Well, Knuckles did turn up in SU
<Nuckles87-FUS> Well, despite all those conditions, I thought SU was pretty good (cept Sonia's aweful voice). I especially liked "Art of Destruction" and "Mobodoon".
<Bartman|AnimeRally> and the worthless songs would be WORSE
<Sonique> Art of Destruction WOO!
<Sonic_Writer> Knuckles would have figured prominently into season 3 - towards the end - and would have been the pinch or turning point for season 4
<Fester_Blatz> the oracle was a good character too
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Smidge, thats Jaleel doing Sonia
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Who IS Sonic AND Manic
<Sonic_Writer> Talking about SATAM on that last one.
<Sonique> Jaleel White
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Which reminds me
<H_Hog> *shakes head a little*
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Have you ever met him?
<Sonic_Writer> Jaleel? Yes. A very nice guy. Modest. Humble.
<H_Hog> Wait wait... Jaleel Urkel did the voices for ALL THREE siblings? I did not know that one. o_O;;
<Sonique> yep
<Sonique> all 3
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Yes, hes all 3 of them
<H_Hog> White I mean heheh... his old role keeps stuck in my head XD
<Bartman|AnimeRally> he just pitches up his voice for Sonia
<Bartman|AnimeRally> and Manic is just a rougher Sonic
<Nuckles87-FUS> Yup, DIC was a bunch of cheapskates.
<Mogzin_Thunder> :P
<Rayzor-FUS> XD
<Jackel> Personally, I always find that when a character starts singing a song, most of the time, it feels corny. As oppossed to just having a vocal song playing in the background.
<H_Hog> Well hey, if he was able to pull it off right... all the more props to him, eh. =P
<Nuckles87-FUS> He did Manic and Sonic well enough. But Sonia? He should gone on strike or something.
<Sonic_Writer> AFTRA (union) rules are that you can pay an artist for one voice and he can be required to do three. Now, does that make more sense?
<Mogzin_Thunder> Jackel: It's hard to pull off.
<Jackel> Even rewatching aladin makes me cringe at times
<Bartman|AnimeRally> He just gets the same pay, right?
<Ritz> During the recording sessions, were people struggling to hold their laughter in?
<Sonic_Writer> Bart: yes
<NikJam> I don't like songs myself
<ila> Talk about lazy.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I mean, if I were doing a show
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I'd personally only want a small group of people voicing my show
<Sonic_Writer> Our pace was such that we couldn't attend the recording sessions.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Because, for one, its cheap
<Sonique> Ben, I know a lot of people who worekd on SatAM liked it... did they try and put up a fight for it when SU was announced?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> liked what? the SatAM show they worked on?
<Sonic_Writer> No. Without an effective union at DIC, people who objected to strenuously were simply shown the door.
<Sonique> yeah they liked working on SatAM (that's why it was, you know, good)
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Oof
<Sonic_Writer> And as for SU - the first I heard of it was after the development was already done.
<Sonique> okay just wondering
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Thats what makes me afraid of companies such as DiC
<Sonic_Writer> I addressed that particular issue in here a few days ago. If you could refer to that log, my fingers would thank you.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I dont think the executives put much thought on the matter
<Mogzin_Thunder> DiC is basically your 4Kids, Bart.
<Sonique> they're 2nd on my "Company from Hell" list, I thikn we all know who number 1 is
<H_Hog> Are they still around, even? Haven't heard much of DiC in the past... few years, even.
<Sonic_Writer> DIC is basically "for money"
<Sonique> so is 4kids =D
<Bartman|AnimeRally> The boss of DiC is Andy Heyward, right?
<Mogzin_Thunder> Duh
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I remember he was on this Mario DVD
<Bartman|AnimeRally> and answered 10 questions
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Most of them were useless
<Sonic_Writer> Nah, Saturday morning animation has had the same hit that TV has - reality shows and cheap production shows from Canada taking over.
<Mogzin_Thunder> I mean... isn't there better money than animation? :P
<Jackel> Augh, don't mention 4kids. It makes my heart bleed
<Sonique> was one of them "Why did you cancel satam?"
<DimensionWarped> Lets not kid ourselves here... virtually every mainstream media company is "out for money".
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<H_Hog> Well yeah...
<Bartman|AnimeRally> But when he came up to the question about more Mario shows
<Cheezmatt> Whew.
<Jackel> Yes, but some care more about thier properties than others
<Sonic_Writer> I worked on ten shows for DIC - but never met Andy. I saw him in the hall, but never once met him.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> and he said stuff like "We wanted to make a show based off of Mario's Birthday Party"
<Cheezmatt> What the dilly?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> When he was referencing to the Mario Party GAMES
<Sonique> Mario's BIrthday Party AHAHAHHAHA that's classic
<Bartman|AnimeRally> You dont work for DiC, so I just want to say he sounds like an idiot, I'm sorry =P
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I mean, not anymore
<Sonic_Writer> Animation is very expensive compared to live action. When we were producing Sonic, it cost about a quarter million an episode.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I'm just saying that just so you dont get in trouble
<Ritz> <Sonic_Writer> I worked on ten shows for DIC <--- What other shows have you worked on, besides SU and SatAM?
<Sonic_Writer> Sonic=Satam
<H_Hog> At least one of the Mario Party games was about his Birthday, if I recall right
<Cheezmatt> Wow, Ben.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Nope, they wernt
<Marc> quarter million an episode? wow
<Bartman|AnimeRally> In the first one there was Peach's Birthday Cake, which was a board game
<Marc> lots of monies :|
<DimensionWarped> 250k/ep... what was the typical production time of an episode?
<ila> Mario Party is nothing but a cheap replacement for property division clauses.
<Nuckles87-FUS> Ineed :|
<Mogzin_Thunder> Yeah, theres better money than animation out there...
<Sonic_Writer> Dragon something or other, Beverly Hills Teen Club, Ghostbusters, Captain Planet (story editor), Hello Kitty (sorry!) and some others.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Mario Party would also make a terrible TV show =P
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Yeah, what year did you join?
<NikJam> What's the subject right now?
<H_Hog> But hey - less Mario and more Sonic, guys :P
<Sonique> Dragon something or other.. dont' remember that one
<Meta-Knight> Hello Kitty?! Okay, you're my hero now!
<Marc> hahah
<Alicia_R> Oh, wow. Captain Planet? How'd that go?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I wonder if you heard of the flak about Sailor Moon at the company or something
<Alam_GBC> what?
<Ritz> Captain Planet? Huh, I didn't know that. I'll check the credits some time.
<Sonique> Ritz: he's in there
<Sonic_Writer> We did two years of CP and it was great. Got to do an episode on AIDS
<Cheezmatt> Massive backlog here...
<Bartman|AnimeRally> For Captain Planet? Hahahahah
<Cheezmatt> Impressive.
<Alicia_R> I don't think I've seen the AIDS episode.. when did it air?
<Sonic_Writer> Also worked on Captain Planet when it moved to Hanna-Barbara.
<Ritz> AIDS? My god, how did that turn out? XD
<Bartman|AnimeRally> You guys could get away with so much stuff you just cant do today
<Mogzin_Thunder> I remember that episode that was pretty graphic.
<Sonic_Writer> Alicia - I don't remember.
<Alicia_R> I'll have to check up on it.
<DimensionWarped> AIDS in general? Or was it more of a regional thing...
<Mogzin_Thunder> I think there was a some lood
<Mogzin_Thunder> blood
<Alicia_R> I'll bet it didn't air on Cartoon Network.
<Sonic_Writer> We were proud to get that one through. Pat felt very strongly about it and she kicked ass to get it done.
<Cheezmatt> Go Pat!
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Oh, and Ben, too, hes okay =P
<H_Hog> Heh. I loved the Capt. Pollution 2-parter
<Sonic_Writer> Pat's a strong woman writer in a man's world - and she takes no back seat.
<NikJam> That's my girl
<Mogzin_Thunder> Yeah, I liked CP... But I don't like CP himself... :P
<Sonic_Writer> She's the lead writer on our Smithsonian project and she's got people racing around doing her every bidding. It's fun to watch.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Thats his girl, maybe
<Sonic_Writer> Funny story about CP
<Mogzin_Thunder> i hate one-liners...
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<Ritz> Say, after all of this is over, what do you have planned for the future?
<Sonic_Writer> The artists tried and tried to get a look for Captain Planet...
<DragonSuperSonic> Actually cartoons now adays are filled with guts and blood. A shame really.
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<Sonic_Writer> But the producer, Nick Boxer wasn't happy with any of them.
<Mogzin_Thunder> That's anime.
<Smidge204> DSS: Unless it's on FoxBox!
<Sonique> then 4kids takes them and fills them with lolipops and gumdrops
<Sonic_Writer> finally, they just drew his face for Captain Planet...
<Sonic_Writer> And he loved it.
<Alicia_R> Hahaha.
<DimensionWarped> wow...
<H_Hog> Bwahaha
<Rayzor-FUS> XD
<H_Hog> Pirate Rap XD
<Digiku> HAh
<Alicia_R> That's great. Does he actually have a green mullet?
<H_Hog> *dances*
<Cheezmatt> Question backlog.
<Sonic_Writer> Ritz - I'm in process on a number of projects.
<DragonSuperSonic> Cartoon Network is full of cartoons with guts and blood spilling. Wasn't like that when I grew up
<Mogzin_Thunder> Yeah, I always liked the way CP looked... but I STILL hate his one-liners.
<Nuckles87-FUS> lol
<PerfectChaosZero> lol
<Sonic_Writer> I just finished writing the first draft of a comedy movie with Len Janson (and already edited second draft of act one yesterday)
<Mogzin_Thunder> Hardly, DSS.
<Cheezmatt> Impressive!
<Nuckles87-FUS> So CP had his face?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> There was an episode of Animaniacs where Slappy Squirrel had a suction on Roger Ebert's gut sucking butter out of him
<Mogzin_Thunder> Just DBZ
<H_Hog> I remember that one. Disgusting
<Sonic_Writer> I have a traveling exhibit that starts at the museum of the Cherokee Indian - then to the smith, then to the British Museum in London - then back to America.
<ila> To be honest: I'm surprised Captaion Planet lasted as long as it did, I can't imagine trying to make each episode a PSA,
<Bartman|AnimeRally> THat episosde made my dad HATE Anianiacs XD
<Sonic_Writer> I'm working on a television museum/theme park
<Nuckles87-FUS> Whoa, those sound like some big projects.
<Sonique> i remember that episode too but.. what does that have to do with this? XD
<Sonic_Writer> And a few other projects that are more dull. Plus, I'm the principal writer for a big museum in Fort Worth.
<Mogzin_Thunder> Oh yeah, I had a question about continuity being mostly taboo. :P
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Something about blood and guts in today's cartoons or something
<Smidge204> SAGExpo is working again...
<H_Hog> Probably to show what you could get away with in cartoons back then?
<Sonic_Writer> Mogzin: I don't understand the question
<Sonique> i don't think there was one O_o
<Rolken> I might be writing software for the FW Museum of Science and History; is that it?
<Cheezmatt> And I had a question, but yeah.
<Sonique> DUlcy: He helped make Dulcy
<Sonic_Writer> Small world. Were you at the recent charrette, Rolken?
<TurquoiseStar> Well, I g2g
<Rolken> I wasn't
<Mogzin_Thunder> Basically a lot of anime is a long ongoing story (because they originate from comics... yes) but a lot of animation in america is... very episodic. So I wonder if it's mostly taboo?
<Sonic_Writer> Because I was moderator for one of the groups. Van Romans is my old contact from Disney.
<Alicia_R> Oh, Wikipedia. What won't you do?
<Alicia_R> "The Captain Planet and the Planeteers episode titled A Formula For Hate (1992) was the first time that an American animated cartoon show did a story about AIDS education. The story involved a high school basketball player (Named "Todd") that is accused of having the disease and the villian Verminous Skumm brainwashing the school into thinking that the disease can be spread through casual contact."
<TurquoiseStar> It was nice seeing you Ben, keep up the great work ^_^
<Sonic_Writer> Thanks, Turquoise
<Alicia_R> That's a pretty clever one. Nice job.
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<Sonic_Writer> We were proud to get that one done.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Oh yeah, you said that in the old days we just stole cartoons from Canada, right?
<Sonic_Writer> Rolken, who you working for at FWMSH>
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Or at least the majority?
<Rolken> I'm not actually working for them yety
<Sonic_Writer> Is the "steal from Canada" question addressed to me?
<Sonic_Writer> Who's your contact?
<Rolken> they just asked for a quote for some software for an exhibit
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Nah
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<Rolken> where kids can take miniquizzes and such on monitors and then it returns results to the teacher
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Sorry, dont worry about me just yet
<DragonSuperSonic> Powerpuff Girls = Bloody , Samurai Jack = Bloody , That show with the long stupid name involving monkeys. Even Johnny Bravo has some bloody scenes.
<Rolken> I'm not in direct contact, but rather subcontracting
<Mogzin_Thunder> wth are you talking about?
<Mogzin_Thunder> Those have no blood at all
<Rolken> have yet to see if it pans out at all though
<Sonique> okay how about this
<Bartman|AnimeRally> They do, just not a lot
<Smidge204> Daffy Duck got shot POINT BLANK with a shotgun on a regular basis, DSS
<H_Hog> Actually, PPG regularly hit MojoJojo a nosebleed
<Alicia_R> About the only noticeable blood that the PPG have is in the intro sequence.
<Sonique> ARTHUR! Arthur on PBS kids has had episdoes with blood
<Mogzin_Thunder> Theres fighting, yes.
<H_Hog> IIRC
<Smidge204> And won't even get me started abotu Wyle E Cyote...
<DimensionWarped> @Dragon: Ah yes, I noticed that just about everything originating from the What a Cartoon Show was meant to be shocker material in immitation of Ren and Stimpy style cartoon violence.
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<Ritz> <Sonique> ARTHUR! Arthur on PBS kids has had episdoes with blood <--- Explain.
<Sonic_Writer> Rolken - let me know if I can help. I'll be involved in the new incarnation of the museum. I worked with the current president for 15 years when he was cultural affairs director at Disney.
<Sonic_Writer> Contact me through Sonique.
<Rolken> Sweet, will do.
<Sonique> ^_^
<Mogzin_Thunder> eh... Maybe I should shorten it... Are making non-episodic stories in animation taboo?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> She likes to be left alone, as stated in the FAQ =P
<Rolken> you don't mind sonique? ;P
<DragonSuperSonic> The Looney tunes series didn't involve blood or guts. They got shot but it didn't show a hint of blood
<Alicia_R> So, Ben. In your spare time, are there any television shows or video games that you watch/play frequently?
<Sonique> Ritz: in one episode Arthur cut his knee and there was blood, there was another episode where a character kept getting nose bleeds
<H_Hog> Bart: Exceptions occur :P
<Bartman|AnimeRally> DSS: Because they cover their eyes, the pussies!
<Sonique> and no I don't mind, I perfer to be "let alone" but this is different
<Rolken> kk :P
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Is there a backlog of questions for Ben here?
<Rayzor-FUS> yep
<Sonic_Writer> Alicia - TV shows: Scrubs-Gilmore Girls-Judging Amy (cancelled) West Wing, Smallville(rocks!) 1 Tree Hill....
<Sonique> judging AMy was cancelled ;_;
<OmegaHedgehog> Well, we seem to have lost all traces of SatAM discussion ;P
<Sonique> ?
<H_Hog> Yeah, despite my little idea of waiting for questions until after the previos one had been answered. But ohwell. XD
<DimensionWarped> I had one...
<DimensionWarped> [3:27am] <DimensionWarped> 250k/ep... what was the typical production time of an episode?
<Sonic_Writer> Games - I loved the old Might and Magic series even though it was clunky - and I still love Descent
<DragonSuperSonic> Descent rules
<Smidge204> Descent!
<stiletto> I remember Descent
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Yes, speaking of video games, have you played any of the recent Sonic games?
<Smidge204> I was up until 3AM last night playing Descent 3
<Sonic_Writer> Typical production time of an episode was two weeks from start to finish.
<Sonique> Stileto, hi ^_^ didn't see you come in
<DimensionWarped> I remember getting Might and Magic with my first Sound Blaster actually.
<stiletto> had a lot of trouble
<Cheezmatt> That's incredible.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> and better yet, thoughts on the upcoming Shadow the Hedgehog game =P
<Sonique> i think he cares not ^+^
<Sonique> ^_^
<Sonic_Writer> I have to confess, I've never played a single sonic game.
<H_Hog> Haw, Shadow is not to be cared about in this situation, me thinks
<Mogzin_Thunder> Avatar seems to have an ongoing story... but it's like the only american show ever to have one...
<OmegaHedgehog> XDD
<DragonSuperSonic> I wonder if Descent 1 has gone open source?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Wow
<Sonique> Gargoyles did too
<H_Hog> Whoa, not even the original Sega Genesis trilogy?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> You love the character and loved making the show
<ila> Probably makes it easier to write if you haven't.
<Sonic_Writer> Oh - and a big fan of American Idol (ref TV)
<Wave> wow not a single one...
<Smidge204> DSS: There's al open source port, but you need the commercial data files
<Mogzin_Thunder> Never got a chance much to see Gargoyles
<Smidge204> al = an*
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Thats probably why you never saw one spring in SatAM or anything
<Rayzor-FUS> You didnt see many springs in any Sonic toon
<Sonic_Writer> I would like to be involved in creating the games. I think that all games need more story.
<Mogzin_Thunder> But it seems heavily taboo to do something like Gargoyles and Avatar. Which has been my question.
<H_Hog> Environmentally-wise... springs don't make a whole lot of sense =P
<DragonSuperSonic> I got the data files. I have to get a hold of source. Descent goes DX9
<H_Hog> outside a game, that is
<Sonique> define taboo
<Smidge204> Physics-wise... springs don't make a whole lot of sense =P
<Mogzin_Thunder> taboo - Not recommended
<Sonic_Writer> Mogzin: still don't understand the question.
<Mogzin_Thunder> Not good
<Mogzin_Thunder> bad
<Bartman|AnimeRally> That Sonic OVA had springs and other Sonic 'garbage' =P
<Smidge204> I think he's asking if it'sokay to deliberately break continuity
<Sonique> and it sucked ass
<Bartman|AnimeRally> at least midway on the second part
<Smidge204> WAit
<Smidge204> That was an hour ago
<Mogzin_Thunder> No, it seems bad for animation have an ongoing story is what i'm saying.
<Mogzin_Thunder> *to have
<H_Hog> Yeah, but the OVA WAS inspired by the games =P
<Sonic_Writer> Well, the issue with Sonic continuity is that there have been so many incarnations.
<H_Hog> well, somewhat
<Sonique> dude have you seen One Piee?
<Sonique> if you see that you'll see how great an ongoing story is
<stiletto> leave it to you to bring that up Nique
<Mogzin_Thunder> I'm talking about american animation
<Sonic_Writer> And I think ongoing stories work well. But they have to be carefully planned out in advance.
<Sonique> =D
<H_Hog> PIEE
<Sonique> oh well Gargoyles ruled too
<Ritz> There's only one pie? My gods, there isn't enough to go around!
<H_Hog> :P
<stiletto> how planned in advance was satam?
<Mogzin_Thunder> Yes, but that's like 1 out of a million
<Wave> i think he means one piece
<Sonique> yes >.> One Piece... <.<
<Sonic_Writer> The first season of Satam wasn't planned at all.
<Sonic_Writer> The second season was planned by me.
<stiletto> just you?
<Sonic_Writer> Sorry for the immodesty on that last one, but I laid out the 11 episodes.
<Rayzor-FUS> How long did it take to plan?
<H_Hog> Hey, credit where credit's due.
<DimensionWarped> So, would you say that Satam was going to have more continuity in the second season?
<Sonic_Writer> Then, Len and Pat helped to modify and move things around to make them work better.
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<Sonic_Writer> Dimension - do you mean 3rd season?
<DimensionWarped> ah, yeah
<DimensionWarped> 3rd
<Sonic_Writer> Third season would have been tight as a tick.
<Alicia_R> I know there's a rather nasty backlog of questions, but - Was there anything you wanted to add to the second season that was either rejected, cut for time, or anything like that?
<Sonic_Writer> And would have launched a major fourth season.
<Sonic_Writer> Well, losing two episodes to those comedy 11-minute bits hurt.
<stiletto> how many seasons would you have wanted it to go on for?
<Alicia_R> Yeow.
<DimensionWarped> I myself have always prefered a story that picks up where the last episode left off, for the sake of character development if nothing else.
<Sonic_Writer> I had ideas for other freedom fighter group discoveries and interactions.
<Alicia_R> Aside from the Wolf Pack?
<Sonic_Writer> And I lost the development of Tails that I had done.
<H_Hog> or Ari :P
<Alicia_R> Aww, a shame.
<Sonic_Writer> He would have had a much bigger role in Doomsday.
<Digiku> ouch
<Cheezmatt> Wow.
<Cheezmatt> I've always wanted to know more about the characters' backstories, including enigmatic ones like The King and Nagus.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Tails did seem kind of non-existant in my opinion in the show
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Must be lonely for being the only kid in the Freedom Fighters =P
<Sonic_Writer> If you remember - he was training with Sonic in one of the episodes (where the excavation for the power stones was taking place - episode name slips my mind)
<ila> Speaking of Tails: did you ever picture him as some kind of super genius with an IQ that could match Ivo's?
<PerfectChaosZero> Bart: He gets a lot more screen time towards the later parts of the series
<Ritz> Anyway, yeah, was there anything planned for the Wolf pack?
<Smidge204> Why didn't Sonic & Co. ever just... kill Robotnik?
<Sonic_Writer> And I was going to bring him along into a vibrant, insane adolescent with an attitude.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Its been so long
<DJ-Neo> Out of curiosity, I dunno if anyone asked this yet or what.
<DJ-Neo> How was the series supposed to 'end'?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Robotnik just flipped a switch and got away
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Like all other asshole badguys
<DragonSuperSonic> hurray. I got the sources fo both Descent 1 & 2
<Sonique> hey guys, i have to brb for a bit
<Cheezmatt> Lter, Nique.
<Sonic_Writer> LOL - Robotnik didn't flip a switch and get away.
<Smidge204> There were somany times where Sonic was right next to him, a quick shiv to the neck and it's all but won
<Sonique> my brother is gonig shopping and I need to go too, it shouldn't be more than half an hour or so...
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Right, he got in the Egg-O-Matic and flew off!
<Sonic_Writer> See ya, Soniue
<Sonic_Writer> No. He was captured.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Oh =P
<H_Hog> Smidge: Where's the fun in that ;P
<Ritz> Yeah, by Antione no less.
<stiletto> you can't kill people on kids shows, can you
<Sonique> okay just kidding
<Sonique> he said he can wait for a bit
<Bartman|AnimeRally> You could send Robotnik to another dimension =P
<H_Hog> Well, not graphically anyway
<Cheezmatt> Captured by Nagus, but we all know this surely. :P
<Sonic_Writer> Yes.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I really wish I could rewatch this show
<Sonic_Writer> And the scenes with him and Naugus were going to be highly entertaining.
<Mogzin_Thunder> I'll try again. Is it bad for a show to do a large ongoing story that connects episodes together? Do your bosses say you can't do a show that requires viewers to watch previous episodes and instead has to stand alone?
<H_Hog> they can "fall off a cliff" or "be sent to another dimension", effectively killing them off without the mess XD
<Bartman|AnimeRally> It has been a very long time since I last saw the show
<Smidge204> Oh, here's a serious question...
<stiletto> it can be gotten places
<Sonic_Writer> Mog: Now I understand your question.
<Smidge204> What was the 'official' explaination for Robotnik and Snivley being the only humans on the planet?
<stiletto> throey of reletivity wasn't it?
<Sonique> smidge i hae that logged
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<Sonic_Writer> Each of the Satam season II shows connected to the overall season build - but you could watch each as an individual episode without any feeling of missing anything. They were designed that way.
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<Smidge204> In the chat or on the site?
<Sonique> http://www.satamsonic.com/info/profiles/robotnik.html
<Sonique> there
<Smidge204> ..on the site
<H_Hog> I agree.
<Smidge204> thanks
<Cheezmatt> Whereas DBZ had to have a 2-minute catch-up, for instance.
<Sonique> so does One Piece
<Cheezmatt> mhm.
<Mogzin_Thunder> Yes.
<Sonic_Writer> It's harder to write that way, but much more effective.
<H_Hog> Most animé do :P
<Alicia_R> Ohh, I see. I thought the theory of relativity thing was just invented for Epoch.
<Cheezmatt> I agree, Ben.
<DJ-Neo> SO UH. ;_; Did you not see my question or what.
<Sonique> and before anyone asks
<Sonique> No he hasn't playe dEpoch XD
<Sonic_Writer> The only show that season that had to been seen with the other was Blast
<stiletto> no, I think was was actually based on the original concept
<Sonic_Writer> DJ - please repeat it for me?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Blast to the Past? Ah yes
<DJ-Neo> Out of curiosity, I dunno if anyone asked this yet or what.<DJ-Neo> Out of curiosity, I dunno if anyone asked this yet or what.
<DJ-Neo> <DJ-Neo> How was the series supposed to 'end'?
<Mogzin_Thunder> ack
<Sonic_Writer> Ah.
<Sonic_Writer> I can't answer that.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> It was cute seeing all these kid versions of Sonic and such
<Cheezmatt> I had a question too. Woulds you like me to repeat it?
<stiletto> Ben, any suits ever get in your way?
<Sonic_Writer> Because the final chapter hasn't been writen.
<DJ-Neo> Aha.
<H_Hog> We'll see if the third season idea gets off the ground =P
<ila> for some reason I got a warm fuzzy feeling when Ben wrote that.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Well, if Sonic got all 7 emeralds, he would get the good ending
<Sonic_Writer> And there still exists a remote chance that we will start again.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> No wait, never mind =P
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<Sonic_Writer> Suits in my way? Yes.
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<stiletto> at DIC or SEGA
<Sonic_Writer> I had a forty-five minute "discussion" with a suit at ABC who wanted to kill Rosie out of Blast...
<Cheezmatt> Rosie!
<Smidge204> There are lots of DICs at SEGA...
<Sonic_Writer> because they didn't want to add new characters.
<Rayzor-FUS> XD
<Mogzin_Thunder> Agh... I hate this Puffy Ami Yumi Show...
<ila> (drums)
<Cheezmatt> I wish I knew more about that gal.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Remember, that was before ABC changed to the "Wonderful World of DIZNEE"
<Sonique> HOLY SHIT
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Or was it after?
<Sonic_Writer> She was sure the audience would expect her to be a major part of the story.
<H_Hog> Hm.
<stiletto> don't they believe in cameo appearances?
<Sonique> okay we need to get this girl at Sega so they can kill off all the new characters there ^_^
<Cheezmatt> That was a cameo?
<Sonic_Writer> Rosie was the Nanny who Sonic saved with a warning - thus "changing the past" against Sally's admonitions.
<H_Hog> One can be significant to the story without being a recurring cast member.
<Sonique> no Ben, Sally warned her
<Sonic_Writer> First goes the memory. :)
<Rayzor-FUS> I know most of wont care but I have to reboot my net, brb
<Sonique> just wanted to remind you
<stiletto> you're only 51
<Sonic_Writer> That's okay.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> So now one of the SatAM writers changed the past to make Ben forget that
<Sonic_Writer> LOL
<Bartman|AnimeRally> "Dont tell Ben this, okay?" *VREWM*
<Cheezmatt> haha!
<H_Hog> Hawhawhaw
<Ritz> XD
<Digiku> Bahaha
<stiletto> hahaha
<Sonic_Writer> One of the things that Len Janson always insisted on was that we would have wins and losses in each episode.
<Cheezmatt> Damn straight!
<H_Hog> And then suddenly, his parents never met in front of the Chilidog stand and.... oh wait.
<Sonic_Writer> Thus those touching scenes in the grotto with Sonic depressed at the end and Sally cheering him up.
<Sonic_Writer> Or vice versa, maybe. I don't trust my memory now.
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<Bartman|AnimeRally> Thats okay, we'll help change the past to the right way for you, because we love you, Ben
<Sonique> Sonic: I shoulda listened to you Sal. I shoulda waited until eveyrthing was ready. I just shoulda waited. Sally: Yes, we know that Sonic... little joke there. Sonic: Very little *pouts*
<Sonic_Writer> Awwwww
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<Bartman|AnimeRally> "Tell Ben this, okay?" *VREWM*
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<Sonic_Writer> Uh...what is VREWM?
<Cheezmatt> SFX?
<ila> Wins and losses?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> SFX =P
<Cheezmatt> My favourite 'loss' was in Ultra Sonic. I think that was the only ep where he shed years.
<Sonic_Writer> Wins and losses: There had to be things the freedom fighters won - a new piece of information, the freeing of a character - or the loss of a character or major plan.
<H_Hog> and looked not a day over 8?
<H_Hog> @Cheezmatt
<Rayzor-FUS> That part from Ultra Sonic was the only memorie of SatAM that stayed with me
<Mogzin_Thunder> I think I have a SATAM video somewhere...
<Rayzor-FUS> until I found FUS
<Cheezmatt> :P @ H-Hog.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Were we going to lose any of the main Freedom Fighters?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> If you can shed some of that plan for us?
<ila> Thanks for the explanation.
<Sonic_Writer> That I won't reveal. I hated it when Rawlings told us we were going to lose a character in the last Potter book.
<Sonic_Writer> pleasure, ila
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Oh, I agree
<Mogzin_Thunder> I don't remember the name...
<H_Hog> NO
<Bartman|AnimeRally> "In the last book, everyone dies! Mmhmm!"
<Sonic_Writer> LOL
<H_Hog> I don't know yet so don't spoil :P
<H_Hog> who, anyway
<Cheezmatt> "HARRY POTTER and the... HERMIONE DIES!"
<Bartman|AnimeRally> "You cant make a fan fic of it, you cant make your own story. Dont give me none of that 'open ending' crap!"
<H_Hog> And then you get "Harry Potter The NExt Generation"
<Sonic_Writer> No, I meant the last released Potter book - not the one being released in a few weeks.
<H_Hog> with all new characters who have similar traits
<Mogzin_Thunder> I think it had Sally... and she was acting amorous or something...
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Oh
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I thought that she said everone dies in the last book, or something?
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<stiletto> she said "there are some deaths"
<Cheezmatt> I had a question, BTW. Should I repeat it?
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<Mogzin_Thunder> oh, what was the name of that episode...
<Rayzor-FUS> Mog: Which episode?
<Sonic_Writer> Well, I think we expect deaths in the future since Voldemort is back to full power.
<Mogzin_Thunder> The one with amourous Sally... and I think she was a robot or something...
<Sonic_Writer> I elect Draco Malfoy to go first.
<Rayzor-FUS> Sonic and Sally
<H_Hog> :D
<Rayzor-FUS> was the name of the ep
<stiletto> SOnic's Nightmare
<H_Hog> Ah, we need Draco for the rivalry tension...
<Mogzin_Thunder> yeah, I have that on video somewheewe
<stiletto> no wauit, yes S&S
<Mogzin_Thunder> *somewhere
<Ritz> Did you ever consider building upon the Cat scenario in future episodes? I mean, he just... dissapeared. He could have been roboticized, as we were led to believe, or he could have escaped. There's a lot of flexibility there.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> "Harry Potter and Ron's Cold Dead Rat"
<H_Hog> But he IS an annoying git, indeed
<Sonic_Writer> LOL
<Mogzin_Thunder> With the first one... which I think was called "Super Sonic"...
<Mogzin_Thunder> or something like that
<Cheezmatt> Sonic Boom.
<Rayzor-FUS> probably
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Lets get back to talking about dead Sonic characters, shall we? =P
<H_Hog> Harry Potter and Dumbledore's defective broomstick
<Sonic_Writer> Was Sonic & Sally where we discovered Roboticisze people were still aware deep inside?
<stiletto> that was the one with Lazar
<stiletto> that's SOnic COnversion
<Cheezmatt> No, that was Sonic Conersion.
<Cheezmatt> D'oh.
<H_Hog> You're BOTH WRONG
<H_Hog> :P
<Cheezmatt> Quiet you!
<H_Hog> Sonic Convrsion
<H_Hog> .... D OH
<Rolken> heh :x
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Its not even that!
<Cheezmatt> Phunee.
<H_Hog> The name is JYNXED, I tell you
<stiletto> Sonic Conversion
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Ben, help us out, you wrote for the show =P j/k
<H_Hog> oh hardy har har ;P
<Sonic_Writer> I've written over 200 episodes of animation. They sort of run together.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Heres a serious question, unless its been answered
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Whats stopping SatAM from getting back on the air
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Or going on DVD and what not?
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<NeoGenGamer> yay
<Ritz> NGG...? :O
<Bartman|AnimeRally> AoStH seems to be able to find time on Toon Disney
<Sonic_Writer> I think I have a very simple answer for that one, Bartman.
<NeoGenGamer> I'm .0001% more important now
<Bartman|AnimeRally> and Sonic Underground goes on some nameless channel
<Sonique> okay what are we arguing about? I can settle it, I just stepped away to watch my brother set off some smoke balls
<Cheezmatt> Arguing?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Theres no argument, we were just going on about people dying in Harry Potter
<Sonic_Writer> Lack of vision and planning at the upper levels of Sega.
<Sonique> oh
<Cheezmatt> I see, Ben.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> So Sega is to blame for all that?
<Sonic_Writer> In any series, you need one person in charge.
<Sonique> so Ben, Sega is what's stopped SatA? because DIC wants to releaes it but can't
<Ritz> Didja catch my last question?
<stiletto> Sega said that they're pushing a plan that involves Sonic X
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Apparently triangle head characters and crappy songs win over sexy squirrels =P
<ila> Hey Ben, did you ever have any specfific explanation for how the roboticization process worked?
<Sonique> why? Sonic X sucks
<Sonic_Writer> Ritz: Again, please?
<Mogzin_Thunder> Sonic X is generic.
<stiletto> It makes them more money
<H_Hog> Oh, oh, I dunno if you can answer this one, but I've always wondered between the connection between SatAM and the Genesis game "Sonic Spinball". As most SatAM characters made cameos in that game, you see.
<Ritz> Did you ever consider building upon the Cat scenario in future episodes? I mean, he just... dissapeared. He could have been roboticized, as we were led to believe, or he could have escaped. There's a lot of flexibility there.
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<stiletto> Ben didn't write the episode With Cat
<Sonic_Writer> I don't understand Cat.
<Sonique> Cat was in Sonic Boom
<Ritz> Oh? Well, nevermind. D:
<Cheezmatt> I had a question, also.
<Sonic_Writer> Ah, that was first season.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I dont remember the guy, I probably dont care about him =P
<Sonic_Writer> As for SATAM characters making cameos in the games - that was completely done away from me. I had no knowledge or involvement.
<Sonic_Writer> I sound like a polititcian. :_
<Mogzin_Thunder> cameos?
<Nuckles87> He was an old cat freedom fighter that was captured, interrogated by Robotnik, and later robotisized.
<Delta_Boomer> Or maybe it's because green is the admin action colour? So no one pays any mind to me because I type green?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> in the bonus game in Sonic Spinball
<H_Hog> Yeah, I guess I sorta figured. Couldn't hurt asking, though.
<Smidge204> Ben: Did you have sexual relations with that woman?!
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<Bartman|AnimeRally> If you freed the characters in the cages
<Sonic_Writer> LOL
<Bartman|AnimeRally> SatAM characters flew out
<Nuckles87> lol, eh, at least your being honest Ben
<Sonic_Writer> yes. And it was goooooood.
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<Bartman|AnimeRally> With Sally being PINK colored
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<Mogzin_Thunder> I remember hearing Naka has some SATAM things...
<stiletto> Naka?
<Mogzin_Thunder> or they keep some in Sega.
<Sonique> i will play Spinball just to see Sally but sometimes I can't even make it that far ;_;
<Mogzin_Thunder> don't remember
<Sonic_Writer> I had a point I was going to make and now, I've forgotten...
<Alicia_R> Somewhere in Sonic Team's offices they have the entire series of Archie Sonic Comics nicely kept on a shelf.
<Cheezmatt> Ah, it was proto-SatAM anyways.
<Alicia_R> And that Sonic F1 car.
<Sonic_Writer> Oh, yeah.
<H_Hog> I'm an absolute KING at Sonic Spinball.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Well, also, Spinball was made in the US, who had an idea about SatAM
<Rayzor-FUS> me too with Sonic Spinball, it's not hard if you save it
<Cheezmatt> That was a good game.
<Sonic_Writer> That just illustrates my point about the need for one person to be in charge of a character-driven series.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> and didnt really notice that characters like Sally didnt exist in the regular Sonic games
<H_Hog> Not to brag, but I used to bore my friends in multiplayer games by making it all the way to the Machine on only one life XD
<Cheezmatt> Go on, Ben.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I did that too, H, thats why I dont want to play that game in multi
<Sonic_Writer> Then, cognitive decisions can be made about important issues - and can be applied to all incarnation such as games, comics, movies, etc.
<H_Hog> Rayzor - no saving. Actual console playing.
<ila> The games depicted being roboticized as "being stuck inside a robot" SatAM turned them into robots, and I was wondering if you had anyway explanation as to how it was done?
<H_Hog> =P
<PerfectChaosZero> Ben: Good point
<stiletto> that can have potential for disaster though
<Sonic_Writer> ila - the roboticiser was invented by Uncle Chuck
<Nuckles87> Aye. Sonic has some crazy continuation issues.
<Sonic_Writer> It comes from my own predictions about the future.
<Alicia_R> SHADOW DIED
* H_Hog collapses animé style
<stiletto> what a lovely prediction
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Then after that level, you get to whore out your franchise, Oh man, action figures, condoms, Fruit Roll-ups
<ila> Otherwise the process really has no explanation as to how it worked?
<NeoGenGamer> yay condoms.
<Sonique> condoms?
<Sonique> Sonic condoms?
<Sonic_Writer> I believe there will come a time in the next 50 to 100 years when we can transfer our brainwaves into digital storage - and transfer them back into new bodies.
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<H_Hog> Unmentionables and pinball games?
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<Alicia_R> I'm pretty sure someone would market Sonic condoms.
<Joan> Sorry I'm late
<Bartman|AnimeRally> SUPER SONIC SPEEEEEEEED
<Joan> G'mornin all
<Sonique> meta.. joan ^_^
<Sonique> glad you could mak e it
<Alicia_R> If they can make Hello Kitty Kamo Kamo Kamonosuke condoms in Japan..
<Rolken> whoa, that's the concept behind the roboticizer?
<Alicia_R> Sonic can't be far off.
<Smidge204> Oh yes. Let's talk about Sonic branded sex accessories again!
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Never mind, lets not get to that
<Cheezmatt> I wonder how it was supposed to be beneficial in the first place.
<Joan> Hello Sonique
<Nuckles87> Morning joan!
<Joan> Hello Nuckoe
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<Joan> *Nickie
<Alicia_R> Cheez: It was supposed to allow the terminally ill to live longer.
<Sonic_Writer> So, Uncle Chuck invented the roboticiser as a way to allow older people to have mechanical, strong and pain free bodies.
<NeoGenGamer> bots are funny.
<Rolken> So when someone becomes roboticized, it's really a loss of their current body and transference into another?
<Alicia_R> But had the side effect of gimping their free will.
<Sonic_Writer> Robotnik stole it and perverted into a "slavemaker"
<Cheezmatt> I guess it's a fair trade-off.
<NeoGenGamer> yay slavemakers.
<Sonique> tsk tsk that robotnik...
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<NeoGenGamer> o_o`
<Smidge204> Rolken: IN SAtAM, it seems more like it REPLACES the body with metal
<Smidge204> Think Borg
<NeoGenGamer> it lives!
<Digiku> Geez, that's kinda' disappointing on a story viewpoint XD
<Rolken> Yeah
<ila> example: Robotnik's arm
<Rolken> but I always assumed they retained some organic material
<Smidge204> yosh
<Rolken> like the brain at least
<Joan> Hmm...I remembered this ancient cartoon where Robotnik used the "Bot-o-matic"
<H_Hog> They must have
<Sonic_Writer> It was originally designed to replace just parts of the body - but Robotnik modified it into the monstrosity.
<Rolken> as opposed to complete transference of consciousness'
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<H_Hog> I can understand that a roboticized arm or leg (like Bunnie) would be helpful in some situations.
<Nuckles87> I hate Robotnik.
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<Smidge204> So is there ANY organic material in a fully toboticised person?
<Sonic_Writer> Robotnik didn't realize the people were still conscious, but helpless within.
<Ritz> <Joan> Hmm...I remembered this ancient cartoon where Robotnik used the "Bot-o-matic" <--- That was the comic, wasn't it?
<H_Hog> But you need your torso to... well, function properly, and your head to think right.
<Joan> According to Daniel Drazen, yes
<Nuckles87> He turns something nice and helpful into a monstrocity.
<ila> THE TOBOCIZER
<Joan> Nope Ritz
<Bartman|AnimeRally> So wait, if they still had life in them
<Cheezmatt> The Veg-O, then the Ro-Bo.
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<Bartman|AnimeRally> If Sonic spindashed and destroyed hte robot
<Sephinique> ahem
<Cheezmatt> Then finally the Roboticizer.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Would a little birdie pop out?
<Sonic_Writer> Good question, Smidge. We never really addressed that, but it would need to be addressed at some point.
<Sephinique> WTF?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> or would he just ultimatley KILL the person inside? =P
<Sephinique> uh
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<Sephinique> i can't change my name back to Sonique ;_;
<Joan> From what I read from Drazen's fics, the vital organs are still organic
<Smidge204> Ben: I'm guessing you've never seen any "Ghost in the Shell"?
<Alicia_R> Part of me wants to think that at least the brain would be somewhere in there.
<Sephinique> whao... im here... and I quit... uhm
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<Digiku> That's IRC for ya' :P
<Sonic_Writer> For those of you who came in late, I never read Fanfics or Comics.
<NeoGenGamer> yay irc.
<Alicia_R> Or likely the vital organs. Problem is that they'd have to be maintained, ala Robocop.
<Cheezmatt> Conjecture on Dan's part, though.
<Sonic_Writer> Not out of arrogance but for legal reasons.
<Alicia_R> And I doubt that Robotnik would be willing to do that.
<H_Hog> Mm-hmm.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> In other words, in fear of stealing ideas
<Smidge204> They get into that whole scenario with heavy cybernetic alterations
<ila> Another reason to hope for the launch of a third season.
<Joan> but with the outlets robotisized, the metabolic wastes build up until the robotisized individual dies
<H_Hog> intentionally or not
<Bartman|AnimeRally> and when you steal ideas, apparently the law says you have to fork some money over
<H_Hog> =P
<Smidge204> And to some degree what happens to the human soul when the entire body is replaced with machines
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<Sonic_Writer> If there should be a new incarnation of Sonic, I can just go in the direction I was going to - and not worry about what anyone else has done because there's no paper trail to me.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> God bless america!
<H_Hog> Or have permission in advance, at least
* Cheezmatt nods.
<Sonic_Writer> No, this way requires no permission. I make my own decisions.
<Sonic_Writer> The path of permission is one of lawsuits and messy things.
<stiletto> would you rather work by yourself or with others
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Exactly
<Nuckles87> Aye, and that path sucks.
<Sonic_Writer> I'd like to work with my original team.
<Alicia_R> And it allows you to cut out all of the Sonic fan characters that people love to insert into fics.
<Smidge204> Do you think you'ld go back and try to see all these things when you retire?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> When you "steal" ideas, the law wants you to give the greedy some money
<Sonic_Writer> Pat Allee and Len Janson.
<stiletto> Isn't Len retired?
<Cheezmatt> haha, yes!
<Joan> Alicia : Like Ro-Becca? XD
<Cheezmatt> Bring the Old Crowd back.
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<Bartman|AnimeRally> Otherwise Andy Heyward would come in and call SatAM "SONIC'S BIRTHDAY PARTY"
<Rayzor-FUS> XD
<H_Hog> LMAO
<Sonique> ahahaha
<Digiku> So true XD
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Or no, wait, he doesnt care about those kinds of things =P
<Sonic_Writer> If being in the fifth year of working on a novel - and just finishing the first draft of a comedy movie with me two days ago is retired, then yes, Len Janson is retired.
<stiletto> oh, thought you said he did
<Cheezmatt> Good to know he's still in the business.
<Sonique> "<stiletto> Isn't Len retired?" god I thought that said "Isn't Len Retarded" I was like WTF!
<stiletto> good to know
<Sonic_Writer> He's retired from animation.
<Sonic_Writer> But, he'll come back for me.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Ah, okay
<Cheezmatt> :)
<Sonique> =D
<Smidge204> Aaawwww
<Joan> cool
<Digiku> Aw.
<Alicia_R> Yaoi.
<stiletto> Nique, you have that little faith in me?
<Cheezmatt> Guh.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Because who doesnt love Ben? =)
<Sonic_Writer> He even spoke with a Sonic fan for the first time last week.
<Sonique> i didn't see who wrote it at first XD
<Rolken> How many manhours does it take for the average animated show? I heard you say 2 weeks earlier, but how many people is that?
<Smidge204> Ken Pend*shot*
<H_Hog> Hey, that's what friends are for =D
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Well, Andy loves his money
<Alicia_R> Oh, wow. How'd that go? :]
<Sonic_Writer> I don't know. Ask Nique.
* H_Hog holds a smoking gun
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Hey, thanks
<Nuckles87> Ben, I was wondering. Are their any animations not written by you that you enjoyed?
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<Sonique> it was like "Hi" "Hi how are you? Ben sent you some stuff?" "Yeah but the CD he sent desn't work" "Well he'll have to fix that for you..." that was it
<Sonic_Writer> I'm not sure about the man hours - that would be hard to calculate.
<Alicia_R> Will do. On another note, have you ever had any ideas on doing a fully original animation of some sort?
<Sonic_Writer> Absolutely. I still love all Looney Tunes.
<Mogzin_Thunder> yes
<Sonic_Writer> I worked for Mel Blanc for seven years. The last two as his director.
<Nuckles87> lol, yeah. They are classic.
<Cheezmatt> I also had a question... let me dig it up again...
<Nuckles87> But...then theirs Loonatics :P
<Bartman|AnimeRally> wow, Mel Blanc
<Sonic_Writer> And "The Tick" was hysterical.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Wait...Mel Blanc
<Cheezmatt> SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
<stiletto> spoon
<H_Hog> I believe Alicia meant original in the sense of completely 100% of your own mind, starring characters of your own design
<Nuckles87> Good lord, the Tick was rich.
<Alicia_R> Mel Blanc voiced Barny Rubble, didn't he?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Is he the original voice actor of Bugs and such?
<Alicia_R> Or am I being an idiot?
<Alicia_R> *Barney
<Sonic_Writer> Yep. And Bugs and Porky and Yosemite and Daffy and Tweety and Martin the Martian and Sylvester and I could go on and on.
<H_Hog> ooh wait... aheheh
<NikJam> He might have
<Cheezmatt> Whew!
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<Alicia_R> How lovably insane.
<Nuckles87> My fac bad guy was Proto Clown. Proto Clown SMASH!
<H_Hog> I'm matching the wrong answer with the wrong qquestion. Disregard my dumbness, I'm Dutch after all. XD
<Sonic_Writer> Probably the best years of my life working with him. And I was his voice student as well.
<DragonSuperSonic> Hmm. Haven't slept since SAGE started and I'm off to work in 4 hours.
<Nuckles87> My fav was always Taz.
<Cheezmatt> Voice student?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> You wanted to do voice acting?
<stiletto> you ever voince anything?
<Sonic_Writer> He did him too.
<Sonic_Writer> Just a couple things. The 7-up dots and I was the logo guy for Nike.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> That Taz voice is also on some old sci fi show
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I forget what it was called
<H_Hog> 7UP @_@
<Cheezmatt> haha, neat!
<Bartman|AnimeRally> But it kept going "Bidibidibidi"
<Sonique> Nike - just do it
<ila> You voiced Spot?!
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Cool Spot
<Sonique> oh you guys remember spot =D
<Sonic_Writer> :)
<Ritz> Heh, I had that game for the Genesis.
<Meta-Knight> ...I still own the Genesis game.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> We still play that goofy SNES/Genesis what have you game
<Sonique> the people at work I told didn't remember... course they were like 15 years old but
<ila> Dude I loved the little 7up guy
<Nuckles87> Spot
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Which Ben has never played =P
<Nuckles87> Spot?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Cool Spot
<Nuckles87> Don't remember Spot.
<Nuckles87> Oh
<Bartman|AnimeRally> The 7 Up drink
<Nuckles87> The red Spot :D
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I agree
<Nuckles87> I was thinking the puppy.
<Joan> Oh yeah!
<Rayzor-FUS> haha
<Bartman|AnimeRally> that little guy was much better than "Annoying Black Guy"
<Sonic_Writer> I started my career originally as a disc jockey. That's what I wanted to do since I was ten.
<H_Hog> Fido Dido?
<Joan> Ben, I've always wondered, what were your sources of inspiration when writing for SU?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> and "Annoying Pop Singer Whore Britney Spears"
<Nuckles87> Erm, excuse my ignorance, but, what's a Disc Jockey?
<Alicia_R> A DJ.
<Sonic_Writer> Joan: This is not sarcastic...
<H_Hog> 7up brightens my day :D
<Nuckles87> Ah/
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Table scratching
* Alicia_R is naturally unhelpful!
<H_Hog> it is the beverage of gods
<Marc> Disc Jockey
<Nuckles87> Oh...thats what DJ means.
<Joan> Umm...
<Sonic_Writer> But it was trying to pull the show as close to the continuity of Satam as possible. That's why I did the three-part origin story.
<Joan> Ah
<stiletto> and there came the people in charge to get in the way
<Cheezmatt> Joan: Antidepressants.
<Sonic_Writer> I was trying to give the show some underpinnings since it had virtually none at all when we came in.
<Delta_Boomer> Can anyone see me?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Say, in the first Sonic Underground episode
<Sonique> i sitll dont get why they didn't just renew SatAM for a 3rd season
<Cheezmatt> Yes.
<Joan> Did you write in the concepts of the medallion?
<H_Hog> Delta: Nope. I can read your text, though.
<Sonic_Writer> The people in charge only wanted to get it finished it. To them it was just a money machine. Get it done, move on to the next project.
<Nuckles87> Sonique, that would mean a song every episode.
<Sonique> but why
<H_Hog> But I cannot see you for you are not in my house and I'm being a smartass.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> When Sonic is a little baby and is running around the home of his adopted parents
<Sonique> i mean... they could have made it like the games, like SatAM like AoStH.. and they made a totally new show O_o
<Bartman|AnimeRally> He suddenly pulls out a Ukulele (sp)
<Alicia_R> And the screen turns black and white.
<ila> Now which is worse: Sonic Underground, or a SatAM with singing?
<Delta_Boomer> That's what I meant, h-hog. But, if my messages are getting through, then that just means I'm being ignored. Except by h-hog. Thx for talking to me, btw.
<Alicia_R> And you can see the film running along the sides.
<Sonic_Writer> Well, I'm on the same page as ya'll. They didn't consult me for SU - they just laid it on me after it was underway.
<NikJam> Did SATAM have a song in it at any time? I forget
<H_Hog> No problem :P
<stiletto> once
<Marc> Nik: only in the opening and ending credits
<ila> I don't think it ever did.
<H_Hog> And just call me H. Everyone does =P
<stiletto> technically twice
<ila> You're kidding?
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<Bartman|AnimeRally> I remember coming across an old tape where SOnic was (Poorly IMO) disguised as a robot with a guitar
<Smidge204> Sonic played electric guitar in one episode
<Jamie-SwiftRunner> Howdy
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Thats probably as close as you get to a song
<NikJam> Oh yeah
<Smidge204> Electric guitar
<Joan> Heh
<stiletto> he sings in Head or Tails
<Smidge204> In the middle of the woods
<H_Hog> Forsooth, Jamie, welcome to the chatroom of SAGE.
<stiletto> and again in Sub-Sonic
<Bartman|AnimeRally> But thats just the pilot
<Sonic_Writer> Satam only had the opening and closing song, to my knoweledge. And good memory stilleto.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Oh man, this reminds me
<Joan> TBH I never liked the SatAM intro song
<Bartman|AnimeRally> of two things
<Delta_Boomer> H-hog, will you tell someone who matter that I've had a question for a very long time now, please?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> three
<Smidge204> Where they dedicated an entire episode to KNothole getting a single, incandecent lightbulb working
<stiletto> thanks, I've got ot know all these things
<ila> Oh geez I remember how hard I tried to memorize that song.
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<Bartman|AnimeRally> You wouldnt happen to have the theme song without the sound effects would you?
<Joan> I watched SatAM for the stories ^^
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<Cheezmatt> SatAM-wise, I've always wanted to know more about the characters' backstories, including enigmatic ones like The King and Nagus. Not spoiler-rific, but additional stuff that wouldn't normally fit into an episode.
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<Bartman|AnimeRally> and can we have it? Cause we love you n' stuff?
<Smidge204> Yet Sonic has an electric guitar
<Sonique> "You put the peddle to the metal and baby I gurentee. You'll be juicing to the 10th degree! Crankin' Super Sonic, I dont' take any fuel cause the rocket's in my pocket and I'm waaaaaay past cool!"
<Sonic_Writer> Here's the story on the backstory.
<H_Hog> I think people can just read what you're saying, but I'm the only one who bothers to answer you, Delta. =P
<H_Hog> RIGHT GUYS :D
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<Cheezmatt> Let's hear it. :)
<Sonique> sure
<Sonique> right
<Sonic_Writer> I wrote an elaborate backstory before I plotted out Blast to the Past.
<ila> Thanks Sonique ^_^
<Sonic_Writer> It involved how the sentient animals came to be - why Robotnik and Snively were the only humans and the backstory of the King
<Sonic_Writer> And to this day, I can't find it.
<stiletto> aw man
<Sonic_Writer> I promise if I do, I will share it.
<H_Hog> Now we need some Sonic Underground music on the SAGECast.
<H_Hog> =P
<Delta_Boomer> I'm wondering if they're ignoring me deliberately. I've even used bold and several different colours.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Again, this past thrifting strikes again
<Sonic_Writer> Interestingly, I shared it when it was fresh with one fan.
<stiletto> I can see you
<Sonic_Writer> And he dissed it.
<Cheezmatt> Hmm.
<Joan> wtf? Really?
<Nuckles87> :@
<Sonic_Writer> Because it involved the nuclear destruction of humans.
<PerfectChaosZero> lol
<Nuckles87> Oyvey.
<Joan> Lol
<Cheezmatt> Ahh yes.
<H_Hog> There goes the neighborhood!
<Joan> That damn phillistine XD
<Nuckles87> Yeah, I remember hearing about that.
<Delta_Boomer> Are you speaking to me, Stiletto?
<stiletto> yes
<Sonique> oh oh oh can I say which fan? =D
<Sonic_Writer> Which triggered the genetic mutations of sentient animals.
<Nuckles87> Weren't Robotnik and Sniv part of a space expidition
<Sonique> he's getting to that
<Sonic_Writer> Yes.
<Nuckles87> Sorry
<Sonic_Writer> That's okay.
* Sonique knows what fan it was XD
<Cheezmatt> Nightweaver?
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<H_Hog> which one :P
<Sonique> AHAHAH no not Nightweaver XD
<Bartman|AnimeRally> "Man, all the furballs should be liquidated, except for Sonic, hes kinda cool"
<H_Hog> I KNOW
<Cheezmatt> just checking.
<H_Hog> it was...
<Sonique> i probably shouldn't say without Ben saying it's okay
<Bartman|AnimeRally> IT WAS I, FOOLS!
<stiletto> was it CTM...?
<H_Hog> SAGEvisitor249
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Wait no it wasnt
<Sonic_Writer> Anyway, they came back to the planet - and according to Einsteininistic stuff - many years had gone by and now he was the only one - along with Snively.
<Sonique> oh stop trying to guess
<Jamie-SwiftRunner> Dude o.o
<Bartman|AnimeRally> You're right
<Sonic_Writer> But the fun part - is that left a colony out there that could discover a faster way to return - and that could remain as a possible story element.
<Sonic_Writer> Never explored that far.
<Sonique> and Sniv could get a hot girl =D
<Ritz> XD
<Sonique> he needs one >.>
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Or not
<Jamie-SwiftRunner> >>
<Nuckles87> lol, he wishes.
<Rayzor-FUS> haha
<Joan> Sniv/Sally XD
<Sonic_Writer> The fan I shared that with felt it was cliche. Was pretty rude about it too.
<Jamie-SwiftRunner> Noooo ;_;
<Bartman|AnimeRally> Not when Robotnik just made him his bitch
<DimensionWarped> I can only see one potential flaw with nuclear war ending humanity... and that is... why would all the animals not have died as well?
<Jamie-SwiftRunner> LOL
<Sonique> now everyone is going to be asking me who it was XD
<Joan> Or to be evil Sniv/Antoine
<Nuckles87> Cliche? That? No.
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<Marc> o.O
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<Bartman|AnimeRally> <Robotnik> C'mon Snivley, we're all alone on this planet
<Joan> XDD
<Marc> ahahah
<Nuckles87> Well, ok, little but like Planet of the Apes, but...only a little.
<Cheezmatt> Well, beneficial mutation by nuclear fallout is a bit of a stretch in itself...
<Bartman|AnimeRally> <Snivley> I-I'd be better off with one of the animals, sir, you'd crush me
<Sonic_Writer> Because animals exist in the non-human populated areas that would have been spared the blasts. And that doesn't mean there aren't humans somewhere on the planet in some form.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> <Snivley> AH! NO! NNNGH! *Pop*
<Ritz> <Snively> Must I...? *Wimpers and removes his pants in a stripper fashion*
<Sonic_Writer> Like underground.
<Bartman|AnimeRally> and then the show ended before it started
<Sonique> okay guys
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<Sonique> >.>
<DimensionWarped> nuclear winter is a global thing :P
<Sonique> it's gettng weird
<Sonique> NIGHTWOLF =D
* Joan listens to Sonata Arctica - Ain't Your Fairytale
<stiletto> nightwolf
<H_Hog> This is getting HIGHLY disturbing
<Nightwolf> Hello all
<ila> Its a good explanation though.
<Jamie-SwiftRunner> Oh, Ben, did you ever find the answer to my question? About Manic's new power in SU's second season?
<Joan> This would make a perfect theme for the Wolf pack :)
<Nuckles87> Really? So maybe some humans would appear in the future?
<Sonique> he didn't Jamie ;_;
<Jamie-SwiftRunner> Darn
<Sonique> but now I'd want to kow too
<Sonique> how about this
<Jamie-SwiftRunner> Oh well, thanks for looking anyway =D
<Sonique> Ben do you remember any of the 15 episodes of SU that didn't air?
<Nightwolf> Hey Sonique
<Sonic_Writer> I looked through everything and didn't. Where did that idea come from? Was it in an episode?
<Cheezmatt> Personally, I'm more interested in the character's backstories than the planet's history. More personal. :)
<Cheezmatt> Huh, I said personal twice. No matter!
<Jamie-SwiftRunner> Well, there was a rumor on a big Sonic news site a few years back on it
<Sonique> Sonic hQ?
<Sonic_Writer> Cheez - need the planet backstory to get to the characters. But, me too.
<Nuckles87> Ah, remours XD
<Joan> As for my theory on how Mobians came to be, I'd say it's evolution initiated by the crumbling of human society
* Sz just read an hour of backlog
<stiletto> anything you can tell us about Nagus?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I remember some Underground-centric website said one of the siblings would leave
<Sonique> yes
<Sonique> he pwns you ^_^
<Sonic_Writer> Somebody asked a question I missed.
<H_Hog> Wow, Sz =o
<Sz> However, that nuclear winter backstory works well enough, IMO
<Sonique> that was SU.net and that was all fanfiction
<Delta_Boomer> Me.
<Sz> H: I had to catch up after dinner!
<Sonic_Writer> Repeat, please?
<Sonique> what's your Q Delta?
<Bartman|AnimeRally> I get it!
<Jamie-SwiftRunner> It was supposed to be a "natural" power from what the article said. Like So